[GTALUG] Google is ruled a monopoly so Firefox is at serious risk

[Evan Leibovitch]

The issue under discussion isn't whether one can change the search engine
in FF.
It's that Google pays Mozilla a tidy sum to be the installation default,
and that the antitrust verdict may affect that payment.

- Evan


On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 12:50 PM Steve Petrie via talk <talk at gtalug.org>
wrote:

> *It's easy to change Firefox default search engine to DuckDuckGo.*
>
> As soon as my Debian 11 linux boots, I always start *Firefox ESR* and
> change the Default Search Engine to DuckDuckGo.
>
> Easily done:
>
> *(1)* left-click hamburger button (the 3 horizontal lines at top right
> corner of Firefox window);
>
> *(2)* left-click "Settings" menu item;
>
> *(3)* left-click "Search" menu item on left side of window;
>
> *(4)* open "Default Search Engine" drop-down list (left-click small "v");
>
> *(5)* left-click "DuckDuckGo" item in drop-down list;
>
> *(7)* left-click hamburger button (the 3 horizontal lines at top right
> corner of Firefox window);
>
> *(8)* left-click "New window" menu item- - see new Firefox window open,
> with DuckDuckGo as search engine;
>
> *(9)* left-click  "+" sign in Firefox title bar -- see new page open in
> current Firefox window, with DuckDuckGo as search engine;
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [GTALUG] Google is ruled a monopoly so Firefox is at serious
> risk
> Date: 2024-08-13 11:59
> From: Karen Lewellen via talk <talk at gtalug.org>
> To: "D. Hugh Redelmeier" <hugh at mimosa.com>, GTALUG Talk <talk at gtalug.org>
>
>
> Well..its not quite this simple.
> Starting with a question?  can attachments be sent to the list?
> My  media hat on, its because I have a copy of this ruling, but you can
> find it as well. i suggest using duckduckgo instead of  Google though.
> The correct situation is that Google is violating antitrust laws by paying
> companies , and apparently  that includes Mozilla   for them to force users
> to  have default access to Google's search engine only.
> What I find really concerning about what you share though may be a
> misconception on my part.
> I have always believed that Mozilla was a nonprofit organization.
> Meaning that Google would be donating funding to Mozilla..then taking that
> same amount off their taxes to create an antitrust situation..which
> speaking personally  feels both illegal and immoral on several levels for
> me.
> Anyway, the ruling, which will be challenged in court for many many years,
> will require google to stop buying competitors out of the search engine
> market, allowing end users to choose what search tool they want instead.
> As I said,i have a copy of the decision,  there is allot of press on the
> case.
> Kare
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 13 Aug 2024, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
>
> Apparently 90% of Mozilla's funding comes from Google.
> Google pays that money to be the default search engine for Firefox.
> Google may have to stop.
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Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada
@evanleibovitch / @el56
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