<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:#0b5394">The issue under discussion isn't whether one can change the search engine in FF. <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:#0b5394">It's that Google pays Mozilla a tidy sum to be the installation default, and that the antitrust verdict may affect that payment.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:#0b5394"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:#0b5394">- Evan</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:#0b5394"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 12:50 PM Steve Petrie via talk <<a href="mailto:talk@gtalug.org">talk@gtalug.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
<p><strong>It's easy to change Firefox default search engine to DuckDuckGo.</strong></p>
<p>As soon as my Debian 11 linux boots, I always start <strong>Firefox ESR</strong> and change the Default Search Engine to DuckDuckGo.</p>
<p>Easily done:</p>
<p><strong>(1)</strong> left-click hamburger button (the 3 horizontal lines at top right corner of Firefox window);</p>
<p><strong>(2)</strong> left-click "Settings" menu item;</p>
<p><strong>(3)</strong> left-click "Search" menu item on left side of window;</p>
<p><strong>(4)</strong> open "Default Search Engine" drop-down list (left-click small "v");</p>
<p><strong>(5)</strong> left-click "DuckDuckGo" item in drop-down list;</p>
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<p><strong>(7)</strong> left-click hamburger button (the 3 horizontal lines at top right corner of Firefox window);</p>
<p><strong>(8)</strong> left-click "New window" menu item- - see new Firefox window open, with DuckDuckGo as search engine;</p>
<p><strong>(9)</strong> left-click "+" sign in Firefox title bar -- see new page open in current Firefox window, with DuckDuckGo as search engine;</p>
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<td>Re: [GTALUG] Google is ruled a monopoly so Firefox is at serious risk</td>
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<td>Karen Lewellen via talk <<a href="mailto:talk@gtalug.org" target="_blank">talk@gtalug.org</a>></td>
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<div style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:monospace"><span style="white-space:nowrap">Well..its not quite this simple.</span><br><span style="white-space:nowrap">Starting with a question? can attachments be sent to the list?</span><br>My media hat on, its because I have a copy of this ruling, but you can find it as well. i suggest using duckduckgo instead of Google though.<br>The correct situation is that Google is violating antitrust laws by paying companies , and apparently that includes Mozilla for them to force users to have default access to Google's search engine only.<br>What I find really concerning about what you share though may be a misconception on my part.<br><span style="white-space:nowrap">I have always believed that Mozilla was a nonprofit organization.</span><br>Meaning that Google would be donating funding to Mozilla..then taking that same amount off their taxes to create an antitrust situation..which speaking personally feels both illegal and immoral on several levels for me.<br>Anyway, the ruling, which will be challenged in court for many many years, will require google to stop buying competitors out of the search engine market, allowing end users to choose what search tool they want instead.<br>As I said,i have a copy of the decision, there is allot of press on the case.<br>Kare<br><br><br><br><br><span style="white-space:nowrap">On Tue, 13 Aug 2024, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:</span><br><br>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding:0px 0.4em;border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);margin:0px"><span style="white-space:nowrap">Apparently 90% of Mozilla's funding comes from Google.</span><br><span style="white-space:nowrap">Google pays that money to be the default search engine for Firefox.</span><br><span style="white-space:nowrap">Google may have to stop.</span><br><span style="white-space:nowrap">---</span><br><span style="white-space:nowrap">Post to this mailing list <a href="mailto:talk@gtalug.org" target="_blank">talk@gtalug.org</a></span><br><span style="white-space:nowrap">Unsubscribe from this mailing list <a href="https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk</a></span><br><br></blockquote>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><br><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="text-align:center"><div style="text-align:left">Evan Leibovitch, <span style="font-size:12.8px">Toronto Canada</span></div><div style="text-align:left"><span style="font-size:12.8px">@evanleibovitch / </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">@el56</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>