[GTALUG] Raspberry Pi

Aruna Hewapathirane aruna.hewapathirane at gmail.com
Fri Mar 5 18:21:02 EST 2021


On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 11:21 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <talk at gtalug.org>
wrote:

> | From: William Park via talk <talk at gtalug.org>
>
> | No Raspberry Pi is going to match that.
> | --William
> |
> | On 3/4/21 10:25 PM, Aruna Hewapathirane via talk wrote:
> | > Model name:            Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4130 CPU @ 3.40GHz
>
> As William top posted, that is still a perfectly repectable processor.
> Much faster than any Raspberry Pi, as far as I know.
>

Yes it is but the Raspberry Pi OS I botted up in the Virtualbox is a lot
more responsive than my actual system it is running on.
I am still trying to figure out the reason why ? If you ever had a  Windows
machine and you installed Linux on it then you know what
I am talking about. Same hardware just running Linux now instead of Windows
and the increase in speed and performance has to
be experienced to be believed.

>
> Why did you think your system was badly obsolete?  It isn't.  It's
> limited in a few little ways.
>

Never said obsolete said ancient . I am happy with what I have and it
was William
Witteman who reached out and sent me the $:$$
when I was pulling my hair out many year sago because six hours had elapsed
and my kernel was still not done compiling. I had a
Pentium II back then. So nothing wrong with my system I just need a Pi for
different reasons.


>
> - No support for NVMe SSDs (but SATA SSDs are fast enough)
>

I am scared of SSD's for a good reason. They have no early warning system.
And when they decide to fail omg they fail so beautifully.
Beautifully equates to catastrophic unrecoverable as in dead in the water
so uh-uh I will stick with my old hard disks. I can hear them rattle and
diskmonitor gives me so far very reliable indicators of disk health.

>
> - Without a graphics board, it has trouble supporting UltraHD monitors
>
> Quite happy with my ancinet Samsung monitor :-) don't need UltraHD just
yet.


> - fewer video CODECs are supported in hardware.  This might make video
>   conferencing a little laggy.
>

True !

>
> - slower than current CPUs, but not enough to be a veto for use
>

Still compiles the linux kernel in just over 30 minutes sometimes 20
minutes.

>
> Why the heck did you think a Raspberry Pi would be a performance
> upgrade?
>

Well like i said before the responsiveness of a given system is a  very
tricky thing. The Raspberry Pi OS running in Virtualbox is way faster
when I click the app opens real fast boom! This may not happen on the real
hardware I have t wait and see once I get my hands on one.

>
> Your system will have much faster conventional I/O.
>
> How much RAM do you have?  If your system has too little RAM, you can add
> more.  You cannot do that with a Raspberry Pi.
>

I have  8gigs RAM.

>
> If your system only has a hard disk drive, you can surely boost the
> performance by adding an SSD (but only SATA, not NVMe).  There are
> plenty of modest SSDs for a low price.
>

SSD for me is a no-no. Risk of failure with absolutely no prior indication
is a risk
I am unwilling to take.

>
> Here are a few examples.  I have not carefully shopped for these.
> I've only looked on Amazon.ca.  This is only intended to show you the
> landscape of the 2.5" SSD market.
>
> If you are really really short of money, this would probably work:
> <
> https://www.amazon.ca/TC-SUNBOW-Internal-Desktop-Advertising/dp/B073TVJPDT/
> >
>
> - $29.99
>

Thank you Hugh very much appreciate all the digging and time you have spent
on my account but
what I need right now is a paying project or some sort of stable work I can
do remotely. I am not
complaining or bitching but 15 odd year snow in Toronto I am yet unable to
securer any computer work.
All I have is a minimum wage call center position. Which I am happy with as
I have friend's who have no jobs right now.

If anyone has any work that is within my limited skill sets please do send ?

>
> - bottom tier brand: unknown reliablilty, but probably OK
>
> It is a haswell processor so not a bad machine :-)


> - only 120GB, but that is quite workable, especially if you keep your
>   HDD.  I run full Fedora, without much local data, in 32GB.
>

Yes I am very much keeping my HDD.

>
> - free shipping (good) but from China (slow)
>
> - you can click on different sizes and get different prices.
>
>
> Here's a better brand and larger drive:
>
> <https://www.amazon.ca/Kingston-Digital-240GB-SA400S37-240G/dp/B01N5IB20Q/
> >
>
> - $44.95
>
> - 240GB
>
> - good brand but, if I remember correctly, surprisingly slow for an
>   SSD
>
> - free shipping available because cost is more than $35.  Fairly quick
>   delivery
>
>
> Here's a still better drive (faster, longer life, larger):
>
> - $84.99
>
> - 500 GB
>
> - has DRAM which cuts down a lot of wear on the SSD and makes it
>   faster.  I would *guess* that the other drives are DRAMless.---
>

Thank you very much for all the info Hugh.


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