<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 11:21 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <<a href="mailto:talk@gtalug.org">talk@gtalug.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">| From: William Park via talk <<a href="mailto:talk@gtalug.org" target="_blank">talk@gtalug.org</a>><br>
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| No Raspberry Pi is going to match that.<br>
| --William<br>
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| On 3/4/21 10:25 PM, Aruna Hewapathirane via talk wrote:<br>
| > Model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4130 CPU @ 3.40GHz<br>
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As William top posted, that is still a perfectly repectable processor.<br>
Much faster than any Raspberry Pi, as far as I know.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes it is but the Raspberry Pi OS I botted up in the Virtualbox is a lot more responsive than my actual system it is running on.</div><div>I am still trying to figure out the reason why ? If you ever had a Windows machine and you installed Linux on it then you know what</div><div>I am talking about. Same hardware just running Linux now instead of Windows and the increase in speed and performance has to <br></div><div>be experienced to be believed. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Why did you think your system was badly obsolete? It isn't. It's <br>
limited in a few little ways.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Never said obsolete said ancient . I am happy with what I have and it was <span>William Witteman who reached out and sent me the $:$$</span></div><div><span>when I was pulling my hair out many year sago because six hours had elapsed and my kernel was still not done compiling. I had a <br></span></div><div><span>Pentium II back then. So nothing wrong with my system I just need a Pi for different reasons.<br></span></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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- No support for NVMe SSDs (but SATA SSDs are fast enough)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I am scared of SSD's for a good reason. They have no early warning system. And when they decide to fail omg they fail so beautifully.</div><div>Beautifully equates to catastrophic unrecoverable as in dead in the water so uh-uh I will stick with my old hard disks. I can hear them rattle and</div><div>diskmonitor gives me so far very reliable indicators of disk health.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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- Without a graphics board, it has trouble supporting UltraHD monitors<br>
<br></blockquote><div>Quite happy with my ancinet Samsung monitor :-) don't need UltraHD just yet.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
- fewer video CODECs are supported in hardware. This might make video <br>
conferencing a little laggy.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>True ! <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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- slower than current CPUs, but not enough to be a veto for use<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Still compiles the linux kernel in just over 30 minutes sometimes 20 minutes.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Why the heck did you think a Raspberry Pi would be a performance<br>
upgrade?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Well like i said before the responsiveness of a given system is a very tricky thing. The Raspberry Pi OS running in Virtualbox is way faster</div><div>when I click the app opens real fast boom! This may not happen on the real hardware I have t wait and see once I get my hands on one.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Your system will have much faster conventional I/O.<br>
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How much RAM do you have? If your system has too little RAM, you can add <br>
more. You cannot do that with a Raspberry Pi.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I have 8gigs RAM.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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If your system only has a hard disk drive, you can surely boost the<br>
performance by adding an SSD (but only SATA, not NVMe). There are<br>
plenty of modest SSDs for a low price.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>SSD for me is a no-no. Risk of failure with absolutely no prior indication is a risk</div><div>I am unwilling to take.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Here are a few examples. I have not carefully shopped for these.<br>
I've only looked on Amazon.ca. This is only intended to show you the<br>
landscape of the 2.5" SSD market.<br>
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If you are really really short of money, this would probably work:<br>
<<a href="https://www.amazon.ca/TC-SUNBOW-Internal-Desktop-Advertising/dp/B073TVJPDT/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.ca/TC-SUNBOW-Internal-Desktop-Advertising/dp/B073TVJPDT/</a>><br>
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- $29.99<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thank you Hugh very much appreciate all the digging and time you have spent on my account but <br></div><div>what I need right now is a paying project or some sort of stable work I can do remotely. I am not <br></div><div>complaining or bitching but 15 odd year snow in Toronto I am yet unable to securer any computer work.</div><div>All I have is a minimum wage call center position. Which I am happy with as I have friend's who have no jobs right now. <br></div><div><br></div><div>If anyone has any work that is within my limited skill sets please do send ?<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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- bottom tier brand: unknown reliablilty, but probably OK<br>
<br></blockquote><div>It is a haswell processor so not a bad machine :-)<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
- only 120GB, but that is quite workable, especially if you keep your<br>
HDD. I run full Fedora, without much local data, in 32GB.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes I am very much keeping my HDD. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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- free shipping (good) but from China (slow)<br>
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- you can click on different sizes and get different prices.<br>
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Here's a better brand and larger drive:<br>
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<<a href="https://www.amazon.ca/Kingston-Digital-240GB-SA400S37-240G/dp/B01N5IB20Q/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.ca/Kingston-Digital-240GB-SA400S37-240G/dp/B01N5IB20Q/</a>><br>
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- $44.95<br>
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- 240GB<br>
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- good brand but, if I remember correctly, surprisingly slow for an<br>
SSD<br>
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- free shipping available because cost is more than $35. Fairly quick<br>
delivery<br>
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Here's a still better drive (faster, longer life, larger):<br>
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- $84.99<br>
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- 500 GB<br>
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- has DRAM which cuts down a lot of wear on the SSD and makes it<br>
faster. I would *guess* that the other drives are DRAMless.---<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thank you very much for all the info Hugh.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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