[GTALUG] Specific question about mailing list management

ac ac at main.me
Wed Jul 25 09:48:02 EDT 2018


Hi Alvin, 

long time :)

Have you been black listed by an RBL for a mailing list sending
verification emails?

On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 09:26:04 -0400
Alvin Starr via talk <talk at gtalug.org> wrote:

> Another thing is to make sure you have a valid email address by
> sending an activation message.
> Lots of people will provide bogus addresses either deliberately or 
> accidentally.
> You also need to monitor your outgoing email or track the bounce
> backs for email addresses that go away.
> 
> One of the problems you will face is that conventional wisdom is that 
> responding to an un-subscribe button is just a way that the spammers 
> validate your email address.
> Also People will just tag the messages as spam causing you to get 
> black-listed.
> 
> Every few years I get blacklisted because I have someone running a
> small mail-list related to a Knitting e-commerce web site.
> The site admin is a good friend and I know they are very careful
> about the mail addresses in the list but bad emails still leak in.
> 
> 
> 
> On 07/25/2018 02:06 AM, ac via talk wrote:
> > Hi Evan,
> >
> > The quick answer is that there is no agreement on best practise for
> > unsub messages, the amount of verification (and time span of) and a
> > number of other abuse related issues.
> >
> > Here is what I personally (wrongly or correctly) do:
> > Subscription (Opt in message / Confirm email message - 1 per day max
> > three days)
> > Unsubscribe - no message - just unsubscribe
> >
> > never send any email from noreply@  I am not Google or Microsoft
> > (and even the dentist around the corner is now doing that *sigh*)
> >
> > When subscriber does anything on a link (Web) - send a confirm your
> > request email
> >
> > hth
> >
> > Andre
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 00:30:58 -0400
> > Evan Leibovitch via talk <talk at gtalug.org> wrote:
> >  
> >> Hi all.
> >>
> >> This question is asked of anyone who administers a mailing list
> >> about policies. I'm setting up a campaign-based mailing system
> >> using phplist (as opposed to a forum-type MLM such as Mailman) and
> >> I'm interested to know what policies or best practices you might
> >> have in place to address this specific question:
> >>
> >> When a list subscriber goes to a link to change their preferences
> >> or unsubscribe, from what email address does the confirmation (for
> >> changes) or "sorry to see you go" message (for unsubscriptions)
> >> originate.
> >>
> >> Does such administrative email come from:
> >> a) an identifiable member or the organization's staff?
> >> b) a postmaster-type alias?
> >> c) a do-not-reply address?
> >>
> >> ​Any feedback is appreciated.​
> >>  
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