[GTALUG] XFCE on regular Red Hat

[Sergio Durigan Junior]

On Sunday, July 26 2015, David Collier-Brown wrote:

> On 07/26/2015 01:54 AM, Sergio Durigan Junior wrote:
>> On Friday, July 24 2015, David Collier-Brown wrote:
>>
>>> For a long time, I've been using the Fedora XFCE spin, but wanted to
>>> build a new for-work dev machine and got RHEL 7.2, so I would have a
>>> supported version to host recent tools on.
>> I think you meant RHEL-7.1, right?  RHEL-7.2 has not been released yet.
> The download page said 7.1, but I included uname -a in the message, as
> it had said something else...
> $ uname -a
> Linux miles 3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri May 15 21:38:46 EDT
> 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x

I see.  The "7.2" you see there is an internal version number; this
specific Linux kernel has been released for RHEL-7.1.

>>> Fedora is fun, but tends to lag in app versions while being at the
>>> bleeding edge in kernel versions, which is fine for a toy machine, but
>>> the inverse of what I want for a machine to make money with..
>>> 86_64 GNU/Linux
>> Out of curiosity, why do you say that Fedora "tends to lag in app
>> version"?  The Linux kernel and the GNU toolchain are well maintained
>> and up-to-date; popular desktop programs as well, at least in my
>> experience.
>
> At the time it's cut Fedora is up to date, but their stated policy is
> to not spend much time updating until the next release is cut. I'm
> constrained to use specific recent versions of Eclipse, Java and Scala
> for work, and I couldn't even get the previous (Luna) version of
> Eclipse until a kind chap created a custom repo of it for Fedora.
> Current release is Eclipse Mars, which installs without any pain on
> RHEL workstation. As you would expect.

Hm, I don't know about this policy (I am a heavy Fedora user and I
maintain a few packages in the distro).  The current release always gets
tons of updates for the vast majority of the packages, and even the
"older" releases also get a decent number of updates as well (assuming
they have not been EOL'ed).

>>> Alas, RHEL 7.2  seems to be much *more* broken than Fedora fc 21
>>> Yum can't even do a groupinstall,
>> Do you mean yum does not recognize the "groupinstall" command at all?
>> As you have mentioned below, yum actually *can* do a groupinstall
>> without problems.
>
> No, I said *other folks* with earlier RHEL 7s could do a groupinstall:

Sorry, I was confused with your original sentence, and I thought you
were not able to do a 'yum groupinstall' of any package.

> I get
> $ sudo yum groupinstall Xfce
> [sudo] password for davecb:
> Loaded plugins: langpacks, product-id, subscription-manager
> Warning: group Xfce does not exist.
> No packages in any requested group available to install or update

Do you have EPEL enabled in your system?  I could not reproduce this
problem, but I am interested in helping you fix it.

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