Women and TLUG - a personal rant

[Bill Thanis]

To clarify, I wasn't speaking about the main list (this one). Any idiot can
join this list. It is completely unmoderated or more realistically
self-moderated. It is run as a community service and there are no
requirements for to join it.

The tlug-board list, the list that the execs use to communicate is over a
decade old now. It probably contains both the members who are now deceased,
and several dozen people that have come and gone from the board and the
exec. That is the list we need to clean up.

Bill



On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Stephen <stephen-d-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA at public.gmane.org> wrote:

>  I ask that any purging of the list be performed carefully.
>
> I, and I am sure others, get very useful help from the list but have a
> hard time getting to meetings.
>
> Stephen
>
>
> On 14-01-16 01:08 PM, Bill Thanis wrote:
>
>   Renata has a point. We need to go through the TLUG-board list and
> remove the people that are no longer on the board or in the exec.
>
>  Scott pointed out that TLUG-board needs to go back to being a list for
> the tlug purposes and not the circle of friends that happen to be on the
> list.
>
>  Can we extract the tlug-board list and go through it figuring out who
> should or shouldn't be on it. For example, I am pretty sure that Leah is
> still on it.
>
>  Bill
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Renata Rocha <natzilla-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> I was going to suggest that we implement a timer with a silly picture,
>> so every time a heckler interrupts the presenter, they (the presenter)
>> can activate the timer in the screen, counting for how long the
>> presentation has been interrupted due to heckling. It's a way to deal
>> with it with a little of humour and will also make hecklers
>> uncomfortable. Suggested silly pictures could be any current internet
>> meme.
>>
>> (come on, we can write that in 5 languages in 5 minutes...)
>>
>> Renata Rocha
>> http://renata.org
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:37 PM, John Moniz <john.moniz-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg at public.gmane.org>
>> wrote:
>> > On 01/15/2014 09:31 PM, James Knott wrote:
>> >>
>> >> William Park wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Come on, guys.  This bitching about TLUG meeting is strange to me and
>> >>> counter productive as group.  People come to the meeting because they
>> >>> want to learning something, and people don't come to the meeting
>> because
>> >>> they have nothing to learn.  Heckling and harassment are side issues.
>> >>> -
>> >>
>> >> I find it very annoying when the heckling interrupts the presentation,
>> >> sometimes to the point where the presenter is sidetracked to the point
>> >> that the presentation is a waste of my time.  I have to come in from
>> >> Mississauga and I want to hear the presentation, not someone's
>> >> interrupting.
>> >> --
>> >> The Toronto Linux Users Group.      Meetings: http://gtalug.org/
>> >> TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns
>> >> How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Speaking up at times of disruptions really works. Some speakers have the
>> > skill to handle such disruptions (heckling is not really the right
>> word, I
>> > don't think), but most do not and should not have to possess that skill.
>> >
>> > At the old NewTLUG meetings (which I attended frequently right from the
>> very
>> > first one to the time they ended) some of the same disturbers from the
>> TLUG
>> > meetings were also there for a time, causing many, many interruptions.
>> It
>> > became a waste of a trip and time spent at the meeting. Someone spoke up
>> > (name is not important) and basically told the clique, who liked to sit
>> > together as a group, that we were here to listen to THAT presenter and
>> if
>> > they wished to provide their own input to the subject, we would likely
>> > attend their presentation as well.
>> >
>> > The interruptions stopped, not only for the rest of the current
>> > presentation, but also for most future presentations. NewTLUG meetings
>> > became a pleasure to attend. An unwanted side effect was that the
>> hecklers
>> > stopped coming to the meetings. They were welcome there, but better they
>> > leave than me - that was my thought anyway. They were clearly there for
>> the
>> > wrong reasons.
>> >
>> > Speaking up works very well!
>> >
>> > John.
>> >
>> > --
>> > The Toronto Linux Users Group.      Meetings: http://gtalug.org/
>> > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns
>> > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists
>> --
>> The Toronto Linux Users Group.      Meetings: http://gtalug.org/
>> TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns
>> How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Stephen
>
>
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