<div dir="ltr"><div><div>To clarify, I wasn't speaking about the main list (this one). Any idiot can join this list. It is completely unmoderated or more realistically self-moderated. It is run as a community service and there are no requirements for to join it.<br>
<br></div>The tlug-board list, the list that the execs use to communicate is over a decade old now. It probably contains both the members who are now deceased, and several dozen people that have come and gone from the board and the exec. That is the list we need to clean up.<br>
<br></div>Bill<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Stephen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stephen-d-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org" target="_blank">stephen-d@rogers.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>I ask that any purging of the list be
performed carefully.<br>
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I, and I am sure others, get very useful help from the list but
have a hard time getting to meetings.<br>
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Stephen<div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 14-01-16 01:08 PM, Bill Thanis wrote:<br>
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<div>Renata has a point. We need to go through the
TLUG-board list and remove the people that are no longer
on the board or in the exec.<br>
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Scott pointed out that TLUG-board needs to go back to being
a list for the tlug purposes and not the circle of friends
that happen to be on the list.<br>
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Can we extract the tlug-board list and go through it figuring
out who should or shouldn't be on it. For example, I am pretty
sure that Leah is still on it.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:53 PM,
Renata Rocha <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:natzilla@gmail.com" target="_blank">natzilla-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org</a>></span>
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I was going to suggest that we implement a timer with a
silly picture,<br>
so every time a heckler interrupts the presenter, they (the
presenter)<br>
can activate the timer in the screen, counting for how long
the<br>
presentation has been interrupted due to heckling. It's a
way to deal<br>
with it with a little of humour and will also make hecklers<br>
uncomfortable. Suggested silly pictures could be any current
internet<br>
meme.<br>
<br>
(come on, we can write that in 5 languages in 5 minutes...)<br>
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Renata Rocha<br>
<a href="http://renata.org" target="_blank">http://renata.org</a><br>
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On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:37 PM, John Moniz <<a href="mailto:john.moniz-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg@public.gmane.org" target="_blank">john.moniz-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg@public.gmane.org</a>>
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> On 01/15/2014 09:31 PM, James Knott wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> William Park wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Come on, guys. This bitching about TLUG
meeting is strange to me and<br>
>>> counter productive as group. People come
to the meeting because they<br>
>>> want to learning something, and people
don't come to the meeting because<br>
>>> they have nothing to learn. Heckling and
harassment are side issues.<br>
>>> -<br>
>><br>
>> I find it very annoying when the heckling
interrupts the presentation,<br>
>> sometimes to the point where the presenter is
sidetracked to the point<br>
>> that the presentation is a waste of my time. I
have to come in from<br>
>> Mississauga and I want to hear the
presentation, not someone's<br>
>> interrupting.<br>
>> --<br>
>> The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: <a href="http://gtalug.org/" target="_blank">http://gtalug.org/</a><br>
>> TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text
below 80 columns<br>
>> How to UNSUBSCRIBE: <a href="http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists" target="_blank">http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists</a><br>
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>><br>
> Speaking up at times of disruptions really works.
Some speakers have the<br>
> skill to handle such disruptions (heckling is not
really the right word, I<br>
> don't think), but most do not and should not have
to possess that skill.<br>
><br>
> At the old NewTLUG meetings (which I attended
frequently right from the very<br>
> first one to the time they ended) some of the same
disturbers from the TLUG<br>
> meetings were also there for a time, causing many,
many interruptions. It<br>
> became a waste of a trip and time spent at the
meeting. Someone spoke up<br>
> (name is not important) and basically told the
clique, who liked to sit<br>
> together as a group, that we were here to listen to
THAT presenter and if<br>
> they wished to provide their own input to the
subject, we would likely<br>
> attend their presentation as well.<br>
><br>
> The interruptions stopped, not only for the rest of
the current<br>
> presentation, but also for most future
presentations. NewTLUG meetings<br>
> became a pleasure to attend. An unwanted side
effect was that the hecklers<br>
> stopped coming to the meetings. They were welcome
there, but better they<br>
> leave than me - that was my thought anyway. They
were clearly there for the<br>
> wrong reasons.<br>
><br>
> Speaking up works very well!<br>
><br>
> John.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: <a href="http://gtalug.org/" target="_blank">http://gtalug.org/</a><br>
> TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text
below 80 columns<br>
> How to UNSUBSCRIBE: <a href="http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists" target="_blank">http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists</a><br>
--<br>
The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: <a href="http://gtalug.org/" target="_blank">http://gtalug.org/</a><br>
TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80
columns<br>
How to UNSUBSCRIBE: <a href="http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists" target="_blank">http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists</a><br>
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