Women and TLUG - a personal rant

Stephen stephen-d-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA at public.gmane.org
Thu Jan 16 18:20:38 UTC 2014


I ask that any purging of the list be performed carefully.

I, and I am sure others, get very useful help from the list but have a 
hard time getting to meetings.

Stephen

On 14-01-16 01:08 PM, Bill Thanis wrote:
> Renata has a point. We need to go through the TLUG-board list and 
> remove the people that are no longer on the board or in the exec.
>
> Scott pointed out that TLUG-board needs to go back to being a list for 
> the tlug purposes and not the circle of friends that happen to be on 
> the list.
>
> Can we extract the tlug-board list and go through it figuring out who 
> should or shouldn't be on it. For example, I am pretty sure that Leah 
> is still on it.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Renata Rocha <natzilla-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org 
> <mailto:natzilla-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org>> wrote:
>
>     I was going to suggest that we implement a timer with a silly picture,
>     so every time a heckler interrupts the presenter, they (the presenter)
>     can activate the timer in the screen, counting for how long the
>     presentation has been interrupted due to heckling. It's a way to deal
>     with it with a little of humour and will also make hecklers
>     uncomfortable. Suggested silly pictures could be any current internet
>     meme.
>
>     (come on, we can write that in 5 languages in 5 minutes...)
>
>     Renata Rocha
>     http://renata.org
>
>
>     On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:37 PM, John Moniz
>     <john.moniz-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg at public.gmane.org <mailto:john.moniz-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg at public.gmane.org>> wrote:
>     > On 01/15/2014 09:31 PM, James Knott wrote:
>     >>
>     >> William Park wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>> Come on, guys.  This bitching about TLUG meeting is strange to
>     me and
>     >>> counter productive as group.  People come to the meeting
>     because they
>     >>> want to learning something, and people don't come to the
>     meeting because
>     >>> they have nothing to learn.  Heckling and harassment are side
>     issues.
>     >>> -
>     >>
>     >> I find it very annoying when the heckling interrupts the
>     presentation,
>     >> sometimes to the point where the presenter is sidetracked to
>     the point
>     >> that the presentation is a waste of my time.  I have to come in
>     from
>     >> Mississauga and I want to hear the presentation, not someone's
>     >> interrupting.
>     >> --
>     >> The Toronto Linux Users Group.      Meetings: http://gtalug.org/
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>     >>
>     >>
>     > Speaking up at times of disruptions really works. Some speakers
>     have the
>     > skill to handle such disruptions (heckling is not really the
>     right word, I
>     > don't think), but most do not and should not have to possess
>     that skill.
>     >
>     > At the old NewTLUG meetings (which I attended frequently right
>     from the very
>     > first one to the time they ended) some of the same disturbers
>     from the TLUG
>     > meetings were also there for a time, causing many, many
>     interruptions. It
>     > became a waste of a trip and time spent at the meeting. Someone
>     spoke up
>     > (name is not important) and basically told the clique, who liked
>     to sit
>     > together as a group, that we were here to listen to THAT
>     presenter and if
>     > they wished to provide their own input to the subject, we would
>     likely
>     > attend their presentation as well.
>     >
>     > The interruptions stopped, not only for the rest of the current
>     > presentation, but also for most future presentations. NewTLUG
>     meetings
>     > became a pleasure to attend. An unwanted side effect was that
>     the hecklers
>     > stopped coming to the meetings. They were welcome there, but
>     better they
>     > leave than me - that was my thought anyway. They were clearly
>     there for the
>     > wrong reasons.
>     >
>     > Speaking up works very well!
>     >
>     > John.
>     >
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>
>


-- 
Stephen

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