Women and TLUG - a personal rant

[Bill Thanis]

Renata has a point. We need to go through the TLUG-board list and remove
the people that are no longer on the board or in the exec.

Scott pointed out that TLUG-board needs to go back to being a list for the
tlug purposes and not the circle of friends that happen to be on the list.

Can we extract the tlug-board list and go through it figuring out who
should or shouldn't be on it. For example, I am pretty sure that Leah is
still on it.

Bill



On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Renata Rocha <natzilla-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> wrote:

> I was going to suggest that we implement a timer with a silly picture,
> so every time a heckler interrupts the presenter, they (the presenter)
> can activate the timer in the screen, counting for how long the
> presentation has been interrupted due to heckling. It's a way to deal
> with it with a little of humour and will also make hecklers
> uncomfortable. Suggested silly pictures could be any current internet
> meme.
>
> (come on, we can write that in 5 languages in 5 minutes...)
>
> Renata Rocha
> http://renata.org
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:37 PM, John Moniz <john.moniz-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg at public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> > On 01/15/2014 09:31 PM, James Knott wrote:
> >>
> >> William Park wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Come on, guys.  This bitching about TLUG meeting is strange to me and
> >>> counter productive as group.  People come to the meeting because they
> >>> want to learning something, and people don't come to the meeting
> because
> >>> they have nothing to learn.  Heckling and harassment are side issues.
> >>> -
> >>
> >> I find it very annoying when the heckling interrupts the presentation,
> >> sometimes to the point where the presenter is sidetracked to the point
> >> that the presentation is a waste of my time.  I have to come in from
> >> Mississauga and I want to hear the presentation, not someone's
> >> interrupting.
> >> --
> >> The Toronto Linux Users Group.      Meetings: http://gtalug.org/
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> >>
> >>
> > Speaking up at times of disruptions really works. Some speakers have the
> > skill to handle such disruptions (heckling is not really the right word,
> I
> > don't think), but most do not and should not have to possess that skill.
> >
> > At the old NewTLUG meetings (which I attended frequently right from the
> very
> > first one to the time they ended) some of the same disturbers from the
> TLUG
> > meetings were also there for a time, causing many, many interruptions. It
> > became a waste of a trip and time spent at the meeting. Someone spoke up
> > (name is not important) and basically told the clique, who liked to sit
> > together as a group, that we were here to listen to THAT presenter and if
> > they wished to provide their own input to the subject, we would likely
> > attend their presentation as well.
> >
> > The interruptions stopped, not only for the rest of the current
> > presentation, but also for most future presentations. NewTLUG meetings
> > became a pleasure to attend. An unwanted side effect was that the
> hecklers
> > stopped coming to the meetings. They were welcome there, but better they
> > leave than me - that was my thought anyway. They were clearly there for
> the
> > wrong reasons.
> >
> > Speaking up works very well!
> >
> > John.
> >
> > --
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