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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I ask that any purging of the list be
performed carefully.<br>
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I, and I am sure others, get very useful help from the list but
have a hard time getting to meetings.<br>
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Stephen<br>
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On 14-01-16 01:08 PM, Bill Thanis wrote:<br>
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<div>Renata has a point. We need to go through the
TLUG-board list and remove the people that are no longer
on the board or in the exec.<br>
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Scott pointed out that TLUG-board needs to go back to being
a list for the tlug purposes and not the circle of friends
that happen to be on the list.<br>
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Can we extract the tlug-board list and go through it figuring
out who should or shouldn't be on it. For example, I am pretty
sure that Leah is still on it.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:53 PM,
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I was going to suggest that we implement a timer with a
silly picture,<br>
so every time a heckler interrupts the presenter, they (the
presenter)<br>
can activate the timer in the screen, counting for how long
the<br>
presentation has been interrupted due to heckling. It's a
way to deal<br>
with it with a little of humour and will also make hecklers<br>
uncomfortable. Suggested silly pictures could be any current
internet<br>
meme.<br>
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(come on, we can write that in 5 languages in 5 minutes...)<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Renata Rocha<br>
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On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:37 PM, John Moniz <<a
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wrote:<br>
> On 01/15/2014 09:31 PM, James Knott wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> William Park wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Come on, guys. This bitching about TLUG
meeting is strange to me and<br>
>>> counter productive as group. People come
to the meeting because they<br>
>>> want to learning something, and people
don't come to the meeting because<br>
>>> they have nothing to learn. Heckling and
harassment are side issues.<br>
>>> -<br>
>><br>
>> I find it very annoying when the heckling
interrupts the presentation,<br>
>> sometimes to the point where the presenter is
sidetracked to the point<br>
>> that the presentation is a waste of my time. I
have to come in from<br>
>> Mississauga and I want to hear the
presentation, not someone's<br>
>> interrupting.<br>
>> --<br>
>> The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://gtalug.org/"
target="_blank">http://gtalug.org/</a><br>
>> TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text
below 80 columns<br>
>> How to UNSUBSCRIBE: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists"
target="_blank">http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
> Speaking up at times of disruptions really works.
Some speakers have the<br>
> skill to handle such disruptions (heckling is not
really the right word, I<br>
> don't think), but most do not and should not have
to possess that skill.<br>
><br>
> At the old NewTLUG meetings (which I attended
frequently right from the very<br>
> first one to the time they ended) some of the same
disturbers from the TLUG<br>
> meetings were also there for a time, causing many,
many interruptions. It<br>
> became a waste of a trip and time spent at the
meeting. Someone spoke up<br>
> (name is not important) and basically told the
clique, who liked to sit<br>
> together as a group, that we were here to listen to
THAT presenter and if<br>
> they wished to provide their own input to the
subject, we would likely<br>
> attend their presentation as well.<br>
><br>
> The interruptions stopped, not only for the rest of
the current<br>
> presentation, but also for most future
presentations. NewTLUG meetings<br>
> became a pleasure to attend. An unwanted side
effect was that the hecklers<br>
> stopped coming to the meetings. They were welcome
there, but better they<br>
> leave than me - that was my thought anyway. They
were clearly there for the<br>
> wrong reasons.<br>
><br>
> Speaking up works very well!<br>
><br>
> John.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://gtalug.org/"
target="_blank">http://gtalug.org/</a><br>
> TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text
below 80 columns<br>
> How to UNSUBSCRIBE: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists"
target="_blank">http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists</a><br>
--<br>
The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://gtalug.org/"
target="_blank">http://gtalug.org/</a><br>
TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80
columns<br>
How to UNSUBSCRIBE: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists"
target="_blank">http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists</a><br>
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