The TTC bylaws regarding the use of transfers are Draconian, nonsensical and business unfriendly.

[Evan Leibovitch]

On 15 August 2012 13:10, Lennart Sorensen <lsorense-1wCw9BSqJbv44Nm34jS7GywD8/FfD2ys at public.gmane.org>wrote:

(I believe that YRT fares and transfers are accepted on TTC
> > buses north of Steeles).
>
> They are, but of course if you use Presto in YRT, then you have no way to
> transfer to a TTC bus in york region because the TTC busses are not equiped
> to accept presto and hence can't tell you have already paid for your 2 hour
> fare.
>

True. There's even an FAQ entry
<http://yrt.ca/en/farespasses/presto.asp#7>on the YRT site about that.

 > I can't speak for BC Transit. but from Finch Avenue it costs more to get
to

> > Highway 7 than to go downtown because of the border crossing.
>
> Actually if you take a YRT bus from finch you only pay york region fare to
> go from finch to highway 7.


Guess I should have said Wilson or York Mills. ;-)



> YRT busses can't drop you off while heading north into york region and
> they can't pick you up south of steeles while heading into Toronto but they
> don't charge an extra fare
> to get you there (of course you also can't transfer to a TTC bus, so you
> would be paying the extra fare when you do that).  TTC busses also go much
> further north of steeles than YRT busses go south.
>

One exception; if you have a valid TTC pass or transfer, you can take Viva
Orange either way between Downsview Station and York
University<http://www.yrt.ca/en/farespasses/resources/Viva_orange_TTC_notice_half_web.pdf>.
This is especially useful nights and weekends when the 196 York U buses
aren't every few minutes, and most people don't know about it.


> This is the system used in many european transit systems. If you have a
> > one-trip ticket, you validate it at the beginning of your trip, at a
> little
> > time-stamp machine on all buses and subway platforms. It separates fare
> > collection/enforcement from driving, which is a Good Thing. (Under
> Toronto
> > POP, if you want to use a one-trip fare you still need to go to the front
> > and get a transfer which is your 'proof'.)
>
> I think that would be great to have on all TTC routes.  It sure speeds up
> transfers and loading/unloading in general.
>

It's coming. The current plan is to have Presto system-wide in the TTC by
2015, before both the start of the Pan Am Games and the opening of the
subway extension to the Vaughan Wal-Mart.

(I'm still having a hard time calling that stop "Vaughan Corporate Centre"
with a straight face)

- Evan
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