Gentoo -- help

[ted leslie]

Sounds like my experience, i then used Sabayon which was nice, but in
the end became a very happy mint user.
If you want to stick with gentoo "like" distro, you may want to go
Sabayon, then work "backwards" as need arises.

tl

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:09 AM, William Park <opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Thanks Walter, but I gave up already.  I thought you start with minimal
> install, and run some command to start compiling process, and just sit
> back and watch.
> --
> William
>
> On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 02:59:06AM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 09:14:51PM -0500, William Park wrote
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I decided to try Gentoo.  I downloaded "netinstall" version
>> >     gentoo-install-amd64-minimal-20110224.iso
>> > and am able to boot to shell prompt.  What do I do then?
>> > I thought it would be just minimal install, from which you install other
>> > stuffs.  But, it's not.  And, I gave up browsing gentoo.org... can't make
>> > head or tail of it.
>>
>>   Rather than the multiple chapters, I prefer the all-in-one webpage
>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?full=1
>>
>>   The install requires some manual work/configuration.  Here is the hint
>> that saves the most work.  If you have another linux machine, or even a
>> Windows machine with Putty, on your installing machine...
>> - run "net-setup" to get the network functional
>> - run "passwd" and set a password
>> - run "/etc/init.d/sshd" to start the ssh daemon
>> - walk over to the other machine, and ssh into the installing machine
>>
>>   Now you can web browse the install webpage for install instructions,
>> and copy+paste commands into the terminal window that's connected to the
>> installing machine.  Makes things *MUCH* more convenient.  It's also
>> nice, because you can now scp config files like /etc/resolv.conf from
>> your linux machine over to the installing machine.
>>
>>   If you can't do this, then you'll have to do the following...
>> - run "net-setup" to get the network functional
>> - press {ALT-F2} to get to the second tty
>> - "links http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?full=1"
>>   to bring up the install instructions
>> - if "links" isn't available, try "links2"
>> - press {ALT-F1} to switch back to the install, and {ALT-F2} to view the
>>   install docs
>>   I believe that the gpm daemon runs by default, so you can cut-n-paste
>> in text consoles.  If it isn't running, execute the command...
>> "/etc/init.d/gpm" to start it.
>>
>>   Other helpful hints...
>> - when setting up /etc/make.conf I recommend including...
>> CFLAGS="-O2 -march=native -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
>> CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
>> MAKEOPTS="-j1"
>>   ...the first 2 lines are standard.  The "-j1" solves the occasional
>> compile that mysteriously blows up.  Yes, higher values are *SUPPOSED*
>> to work OK, but occasionally they don't.  "-j1" slows down the compile
>> process slightly, but...
>> - the compiled program is just as fast
>> - spending an hour trying to figure out why a compile is blowing up will
>>   use up more time than you "save" with higher values.  Besides which,
>>   the build process can run in the background.  Note that you can browse
>>   the web with Firefox while Firefox is being re-built.  This may be a
>>   bit hard to grasp, but it does work.
>>
>>   For a GUI, build xorg-server, *NOT* xorg-x11.  xorg-x11 is a
>> "monolithic" build that pulls in a lot of extraneous stuff.
>>
>>   Unless you're familiar with PAM, and are hosting other users on your
>> machine, mask it out and save yourself a lot of hassle.  config files
>> are set up differently under PAM, and 99% of the docs on the web assume
>> you're not using PAM.
>>
>>   Also, mask out HAL.  It's being deprecated and even the lead developer
>> has admitted that it is excrement.
>>
>>   The gentoo-user mailing-list subscription instructions are at...
>> http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/lists.xml
>>
>>   Send me (offline) the output of "lspci -v" and "cat /proc/cpuinfo" on
>> the machine to be installed, and I can help you get set up a bit faster.
>> Setting up your USE var is a bit of an art.
>>
>> --
>> Walter Dnes <waltdnes-SLHPyeZ9y/tg9hUCZPvPmw at public.gmane.org>
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