Gentoo -- help

William Park opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA at public.gmane.org
Thu Mar 10 16:09:45 UTC 2011


Thanks Walter, but I gave up already.  I thought you start with minimal
install, and run some command to start compiling process, and just sit
back and watch.
-- 
William

On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 02:59:06AM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 09:14:51PM -0500, William Park wrote
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I decided to try Gentoo.  I downloaded "netinstall" version
> >     gentoo-install-amd64-minimal-20110224.iso
> > and am able to boot to shell prompt.  What do I do then?
> > I thought it would be just minimal install, from which you install other
> > stuffs.  But, it's not.  And, I gave up browsing gentoo.org... can't make
> > head or tail of it.
> 
>   Rather than the multiple chapters, I prefer the all-in-one webpage
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?full=1
> 
>   The install requires some manual work/configuration.  Here is the hint
> that saves the most work.  If you have another linux machine, or even a
> Windows machine with Putty, on your installing machine...
> - run "net-setup" to get the network functional
> - run "passwd" and set a password
> - run "/etc/init.d/sshd" to start the ssh daemon
> - walk over to the other machine, and ssh into the installing machine
> 
>   Now you can web browse the install webpage for install instructions,
> and copy+paste commands into the terminal window that's connected to the
> installing machine.  Makes things *MUCH* more convenient.  It's also
> nice, because you can now scp config files like /etc/resolv.conf from
> your linux machine over to the installing machine.
> 
>   If you can't do this, then you'll have to do the following...
> - run "net-setup" to get the network functional
> - press {ALT-F2} to get to the second tty
> - "links http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?full=1"
>   to bring up the install instructions
> - if "links" isn't available, try "links2"
> - press {ALT-F1} to switch back to the install, and {ALT-F2} to view the
>   install docs
>   I believe that the gpm daemon runs by default, so you can cut-n-paste
> in text consoles.  If it isn't running, execute the command...
> "/etc/init.d/gpm" to start it.
> 
>   Other helpful hints...
> - when setting up /etc/make.conf I recommend including...
> CFLAGS="-O2 -march=native -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
> CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
> MAKEOPTS="-j1"
>   ...the first 2 lines are standard.  The "-j1" solves the occasional
> compile that mysteriously blows up.  Yes, higher values are *SUPPOSED*
> to work OK, but occasionally they don't.  "-j1" slows down the compile
> process slightly, but...
> - the compiled program is just as fast
> - spending an hour trying to figure out why a compile is blowing up will
>   use up more time than you "save" with higher values.  Besides which,
>   the build process can run in the background.  Note that you can browse
>   the web with Firefox while Firefox is being re-built.  This may be a
>   bit hard to grasp, but it does work.
> 
>   For a GUI, build xorg-server, *NOT* xorg-x11.  xorg-x11 is a
> "monolithic" build that pulls in a lot of extraneous stuff.
> 
>   Unless you're familiar with PAM, and are hosting other users on your
> machine, mask it out and save yourself a lot of hassle.  config files
> are set up differently under PAM, and 99% of the docs on the web assume
> you're not using PAM.
> 
>   Also, mask out HAL.  It's being deprecated and even the lead developer
> has admitted that it is excrement.
> 
>   The gentoo-user mailing-list subscription instructions are at...
> http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/lists.xml
> 
>   Send me (offline) the output of "lspci -v" and "cat /proc/cpuinfo" on
> the machine to be installed, and I can help you get set up a bit faster.
> Setting up your USE var is a bit of an art.
> 
> -- 
> Walter Dnes <waltdnes-SLHPyeZ9y/tg9hUCZPvPmw at public.gmane.org>
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