Fwd: Ultra high surveillance conference

Lennart Sorensen lsorense-1wCw9BSqJbv44Nm34jS7GywD8/FfD2ys at public.gmane.org
Tue Dec 16 14:57:17 UTC 2008

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 09:53:10PM -0500, Christopher Browne wrote:
> I'm sorry, but this is NOT a "breach of civil liberties."
> Carrying the tag is NOT a civil ordinance - it requires *volunteering* to do so.
> There's no "fine line" here; while it may indeed be intrusive, and
> there may be plenty that may be inferred, there's also plenty that
> *isn't* getting "surveilled."
> It's not even controversial in the ways that people make noise about
> vis-a-vis censorship (e.g. - "Walmart censors!  They only sell certain
> books!!!") because individuals attending the conference have the
> option to opt in or out on this.  Surveillance is not a "conference
> condition."
> Furthermore, it's only tracking the badge's location - participants
> are free to opt out at any instant in time.

They could even trade badges for the fun of it if they wanted to.

> It seems like a pretty useful study, to see what temptations there
> are, both pro and con.

Yes it could be interesting.  And also interesting to know if people
stuck with the intent or played around with the system.

Len Sorensen
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