As of today, free skype out to Canada & US
Brandon Sandrowicz
brandon-77Z/iqU1yLlrovVCs/uTlw at public.gmane.org
Wed May 17 12:16:55 UTC 2006
With respect to Google, they've been doing a good job of keeping
GTalk pretty open. While the client itself isn't open, the protocol
is just Jabbar/XMPP, and the protocol they bought for voice
communications has source available (Berkley-style license) and the
ability to use it (http://code.google.com/apis/talk/index.html).
They also plan to support SIP in the future. The only 'bad' part
about GTalk is that the login connects to all other Google services,
and there are privacy concerns to some extent. So even if they never
support SIP, it's not like another SIP-based client couldn't add XMPP
and libjingle support to interoperate with GTalk, unlike Skype.
"4. Do you plan to support other real-time communication protocols?
Google Talk supports XMPP with the beta release. We plan to support
SIP in a future release. Additionally, we will evaluate other
protocols as appropriate, to continue to deliver on our commitment to
open communications."
5. What protocols are used for voice calls?
Google Talk uses extensions to XMPP for voice signaling and peer-to-
peer communication. Source code and documentation for these
extensions is now available.
In addition, these extensions are in the process of being reviewed by
the XMPP standards body as official enhancements (known as JEPs) to
the standard. Note that the source code for Google Talk's current
implementation of these extensions varies slightly from the proposed
specs. Upon ratification of the specs, Google Talk (and the source
code) will be updated to be in full compliance.
In the future, we plan to support SIP signaling as well."
On May 17, 2006, at 2:04 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
> | From: Lennart Sorensen <lsorense-1wCw9BSqJbv44Nm34jS7GywD8/FfD2ys at public.gmane.org>
>
> | At least until skype has killed all competitors.
>
> Right. Skype uses proprietary protocols as I understand it.
>
> It is much better for the consumer if open standards win. Like SIP.
> Or IAX (not as widely adopted, but sufficiently open, I think).
>
> Most VoIP companies use SIP. But some want to capture their
> customers. Vonnage has tie-ins that use locked hardware -- the only
> kind you can get in mass-market stores. I don't know what Google is
> doing.
>
> I've some experience with untied SIP. Not too expensive and much
> healthier. (I use Unlimitel.ca's a la carte products.)
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