DNS, redux

[Madison Kelly]

Hi,

  Thanks for replying.

  The domain 'madisonave.ca' -was- pointing to the NS 'ns1|2.alteeve.com'
but that was what I wanted to change with the updated zone files. At the
time though the zone file's TTL was set to one week but that should have
expired by now. The new zone files point to 'ns1|2.madisonave.ca' but
the new zones won't propegate. Therein lies the problem... :)

Madison

> On Tuesday 27 January 2004 17:23, Madison Kelly wrote:
>
>> The setup is like this;
>> Master zones are on 209.167.86.46
>> Slave zones are on 209.167.86.38 and ..34
>> The IP slice of our public IP block is 209.167.86.32/27
>
> I'd recommend not putting all of your eggs in one basket, both of the dns
> servers that you're using are relying on a single Internet connection and
> a
> single hydro feed (I'm guessing).  You should have at least one off-site
> dns
> server.  I use http://www.backupdns.com/ as my secondary ... they're cheap
> and fairly reliable.
>
>> On the registrar for my domain I set the NS to
>> 'ns1.madisonave.ca/209.167.86.46' and 'ns2.madisonave.ca/209.167.86.38'
>
> For which domain?  Neither alteeve.com or madisonave.ca are showing those
> as
> their dns servers.
>
>> Below I will attach a protion of my 'named.conf' and the full zone files
>> for 'madisonave.ca' and 'alteeve.com'. The later is a live domain and
>> will
>> be the second to try migrating. I will also include the relevant
>> portions
>> of the named.conf file from the slave (both slaves are the same).
>
> This could be a problem:
>
> 	fraser-74b65gqZ7FE at public.gmane.org% host -t ns madisonave.ca 142.77.1.1
> 	madisonave.ca           NS      ns2.alteeve.com
> 	 !!! madisonave.ca NS host ns2.alteeve.com does not exist
> 	madisonave.ca           NS      ns1.alteeve.com
> 	 !!! madisonave.ca NS host ns1.alteeve.com does not exist
>
> ns1.alteeve.com and ns2.alteeve.com must exist in the alteeve.com zone
> file
> (just as A records is fine).
>
>> Just before though, do I handle the names 'ns1..' and 'ns2..' the same
>> as
>> any other domain name or do I need to somehow "register" them as name
>> servers? Also, beyond the registrar record pointing at 'ns1..' and
>> 'ns2..'
>> how do I make sure other NSs know where to look for those name servers?
>> I
>> ask because I've noticed some registrars won't let you enter a NS IP
>> anymore, only the FQDN.
>
> There are times when you have to register nameservers, I don't recall
> exactly
> at the momement under what circumstances.  I'd assume that if a dns
> resolver
> gets a nameserver of "ns1.alteeve.com" handed to it (instead of an IP)
> that
> it would just do a regular lookup for that name, perhaps something like
> this:
>
> - query to the .com root servers to find the nameservers for alteeve.com
> - query one of alteeve.com's nameservers to find address of
> ns1.alteeeve.com
> - query ns1.alteeve.com in order to find address in madisonave.ca
> requested
>
> I think that if you get ns1.alteeve.com and ns2.alteeve.com added to your
> alteeve.com zone then you might fare a little better.
>
>>                                 IN NS   ns1.madisonave.ca.
>>                                 IN NS   ns2.madisonave.ca.
>
> If you want to use nameservers in a .ca domain then I think that is one
> case
> where you must register the nameservers.  OpenSRS has an option in their
> interface (for resellers at least) entitled "Add nameserver to all foreign
> registries".  I'm not 100% sure of the technical reason for it but you
> might
> need to do it.
>
> Right now the problem appears to be that nobody is actually querying your
> nameserver, dns requests are going to ns1.alteeve.com and ns2.alteeve.com,
> bring those two nameservers into existence (A records in alteeve.com zone)
> and your problems might be solved.
>
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