[GTALUG] Old and New Habits...

[xerofoify]

Thanks for clearing that up. However, I'm pretty sure the debate is around this:

1. You seem to think proper names are rigid descriptors to be crude
and email/domain names are under that

Your daughters seem to buy into at least one of these:
1. Proper names are just short hand descriptions and not special in any way
2. Proper name descriptions are rigid but the rigidity does not have
punctuation either lower/uppercase as part of its requirements
3. Email/Domain names are not a proper name by requirements for them

I'm not much of an expert on the philosophy of language and you're out
of date. However, this seems to be where the debate is going. I would
gather figuring out which of those three is the issue may help. I
could be misunderstanding through.
Nick

On Sat, Aug 10, 2024 at 9:55 PM Peter King via talk <talk at gtalug.org> wrote:
>
> On 8/10/24 7:55 PM, xerofoify via talk wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 10, 2024 at 7:17 PM Ron / BCLUG via talk <talk at gtalug.org> wrote:
> >
> > Peter, don't you work in philosophy? I'm surprised you didn't mention
> > vagueness as an issue here in the philosophy of language or go through
> > lexical analysis with your daughters. The debate ends rather quickly,
> > I would think with that. But my memory is incorrect about that,
> > perhaps.
>
> I do indeed work in philosophy.  This could be a vagueness issue, though
> it is more likely to be an ambiguity issue (i.e. a spot where there are
> rules/norms/customs but in fact we don't converge on the same ones).
> Vagueness works for words like "large." Ambiguity for whether we should
> understand "bank" as the side of a river or a financial institution.  My
> gut intuition is that this is more like the latter than the former.
>
> Also, I try not to pull professional rank, especially when I might be
> wrong (or seriously out of date).
>
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