[GTALUG] Old and New Habits...

[Karen Lewellen]

My personal gmail experience is still one I am trying to resolve.
I have been a sephora Canada beauty insider member for years, with it coming with a 
birthday  gift.
Last August for my birthday, I set a makeover appointment with the 
sephora store at Queen west and bloor.
apparently the staffer taking my appointment details on the phone listed my 
address as
karenlewellen at gmail.com
instead of karen.lewellen at gmail.com
The result?  I lost all access to my sephora Canada account details, even 
though they know I am still a member.
I cannot fix the issue, the site has no active links that work from 
the keyboard with the Linux focused browsers I use screen reader wise.
Have been seeking a solution since..march  fifteenth.
email spacing is and should be everything, while I respect that the lower 
case elements in email addresses are  important in their own way.
especially with folks typing by tap, with their voice, those sorts of 
things,  speaking personally requiring uppercase in emails wold be quite 
problematical.
In other places though, like episode titles?  That seems just sloppy.
Kare



On Sat, 10 Aug 2024, Peter King via talk wrote:

> I just was in an extended argument with my two daughters, about something I 
> suspect might be a generational thing.  Let me know what you think.
>
> So the discussion started with me complaining that "because" Google respects 
> neither uppercase/lowercase nor punctuation in their email, I get lots of 
> email addressed to people whose email is similar to mine.  I myself have 
> always thought that the problem was that Google's email address parser did 
> not respect these differences, as they should, and so I wind up receiving 
> email meant for someone in Great Britain with a similar name.
>
> My daughters argued vigorously that this is not a bug but a feature -- you 
> wouldn't want people to have to pay attention to either cases or punctuation 
> when you write your email!
>
> I replied that back when there was a net but no web of course you paid 
> attention to these differences: we were all trained as programmers to be 
> careful about punctuation and case.  (Hell, I learned on punch cards.)
>
> Their view was that this was a dumb view and that I wasn't in fact getting 
> email for everyone who signed up for email with some version of 
> peter.king.1 at gmail.com, but also peterking1 at gmail.com, peterking.1 at gmail.com, 
> and so on, but only when other people -- like, say, peter.king.11 at gmail.com 
> -- mistyped their email addresses when signing up for some service or other 
> (for instance leaving off the last digit).
>
> The discussion was inconclusive, to say the least, and I thought (and think!) 
> that we should respect case and punctuation.  But I certainly hadn't 
> considered the arguments against it...
>
> Thoughts?  Experiences with gmail?  Reflections on generational differences 
> in the approach to computing?
>
> -- 
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