[GTALUG] Looking for assistance with Firefox

D. Hugh Redelmeier hugh at mimosa.com
Tue Oct 12 13:54:31 EDT 2021


| From: o1bigtenor via talk <talk at gtalug.org>

| On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 8:12 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <talk at gtalug.org>
| wrote:

| >   This shows bad discipline on
| > my part.
| >
| 
| 'bad disciple' regarding what - - - - not following through with the quit
| or ????

Not keeping my quantity of tabs down.

| I've found that parking a page on a 'new tab' helps longevity (smile).

Yeah.  Superstition: tabs that are not the selected tab in a window gets 
less attention.  Less Javascript?  Who knows.

| > | From: o1bigtenor via talk <talk at gtalug.org>
| >
| > | > Are there hard limits that force Firefox to not renew pages as they were
| > | > (so more than xx number of pages)?
| > What do you mean by "renew pages"?  Is that "reload"? ^R
| 
| I'm not sure what the 'correct' term is!!!
| You've restarted your system.
| You ask for FF to be started.
| Typically I have been asked if I wish to 'restore' to the previous.
| (Firefox is set to restore previous session.)

So maybe the term is "restore"?

| FF has already been shut down and then asked to restore.
| My question is - - -  at what point in the use of resources does FF decide
| to
| 'not' honor the requested 'restore previous session'.
| That not restore can be selective - - - if one page has a plethora of tabs
| - -
| such a page may 'not' be restored even if all the other pages are.
| This last iteration for me - - - - well all the pages and all the tabs were
| not
| restored. That was the prompt for asking about what the are.

I don't think that it is documented.  I guess that this is a "soft 
landing" for being out of resources.

Maybe you'll get a chance to ask at tonight's meeting.  Our speaker is 
from Mozilla.

| >
| > | > If there are no 'hard' limits (programmed in per se) are there amounts of
| > | > pages or tabs or perhaps tabs/page or something else from this stew that
| > | > greater than xx tabs or yy pages or even a small number of pages having
| > | > more than xy tabs where such activity results in firefox not restarting as
| > | > it is listed to do so (restart the pages and tabs present upon shutdown) is
| > | > considered 'usual'?
| > | > I am trying to find parameters where I'm not faced with what I have right
| > | > now.
| >
| > I think that it just runs out of RAM or processor cycles.
| >
| 
| Hmmmmm - - - - so how many TB of ram does it take so this condition doesn't
| happen?

I assume that it uses all the resources it can.  And you use all the
tabs you can.

I know that I can have way way more tabs on a 24G machine than a 4G 
machine.

I know that a beefier CPU is better able to handl lots of tabs.  Some of 
which have horribly expensive javascript.  Some of which is from the ads 
that they have no control over.


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