[GTALUG] Boeing India software engineers

[Gary]

Well, as I had indicated in an earlier email, it is a fact that from a 
U.S. census 74% of those with STEM degrees do not work in STEM. This is 
my authority.

However, even IEEE says that the "tech shortage" is just a myth:
https://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/education/the-stem-crisis-is-a-myth

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2014/05/13/how_the_myth_of_a_canadian_skill_shortage_was_shattered_goar.html

https://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-myth-of-the-tech-talent-shortage-why-its-a-much-smaller-problem-than-vendors-say/

/gary



On 19-03-13 10:57 AM, Alex Volkov wrote:
> I'm also going to chime in and say this point is pretty ignorant 
> implying that the only vocational work is worthwhile.
>
> You say you have some understanding of science, programming, linux and 
> AI, but have you done anything that's been used by other people? Have 
> your received any feedback on your work? If not then whatever you've 
> done is just entertainment, this is an indulgence from your point of 
> view, and I don't believe you have authority to say this is not useful;
>
> It's the same as if I were saying that no one needs vocational 
> training because there's a bunch of videos on youtube on how to fix 
> everything anyway and you can do everything by yourself; I'm a pretty 
> good plumber, I've fixed a faucet once.
>
> Alex.
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> On 2019-03-13 10:10 a.m., Gary via talk wrote:
>> I believe the short answer is that if you live in North America, you 
>> should avoid wasting money on a costly academic education, even if 
>> you're very gifted, and, instead, focus on vocational training that 
>> can never be outsourced, such as postal work, fire fighter, ambulance 
>> paramedic and medical laboratory services. In that way there is a 
>> clean bifurcation in the nature of work that is carried out between 
>> here and India.
>>
>> In this wonderful age, you don't have to spend a penny indulging your 
>> interest in computer science, technology, physics and mathematics as 
>> you have internet resources for that purpose. For example, I'm a 
>> retired postal clerk but I entertain myself by downloading lectures 
>> on these topics. I've taught myself c++ and I have lots of fun 
>> developing applications in Linux. I have a passion for A.I and 
>> mathematics but I know that, if you live in this country then these 
>> studies can never be more than an indulgence, unless you have really 
>> good connections; but then, in that case, you can just get a degree 
>> in medieval history before taking the helm as CEO at some company, 
>> which is what Carly Fiorinas did with HP.
>>
>> https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2014/09/30/carly-fiorinas-medieval-history-major-inspires-young-female-conservatives 
>>
>>
>> /gary
>>
>> On 19-03-12 09:25 PM, James Knott via talk wrote:
>>> On 03/12/2019 06:45 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
>>>> A number of years ago I read that India is generating more 
>>>> engineers per year
>>>> that the rest of the world combined. How good they are - - - - that's
>>>> another question.
>>> Several years ago, many companies decided to cut costs by moving help
>>> desks etc. to India.  Many have come to regret that decision, due to 
>>> the
>>> poor quality "help".  In another thread, I mentioned how many put cost
>>> ahead of value and we get garbage as a result.
>>>
>>> One very important question a lot are missing is who is going to pay 
>>> for
>>> products, services, etc., when more and more of the jobs are moving
>>> overseas.  At one time, it was just cheap manufactured goods. Now it's
>>> IT, legal and medical services and more.  When does it end?
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