[GTALUG] Skype platform connectivity challenge

[Bob Jonkman]

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Alex Beamish wrote:

> I don't know if you remember a Bell Canada commercial from the 80's
> that featured four businessmen, each in different locations,
> starting what looked like a teleconference.

Ah, movie magic. There was another Bell commercial much more recently
that had a number of buskers I knew from the TTC, also apparently
engaged in performing a concert over Bell's internet connectivity.
Sadly, that was a studio production, and didn't actually take place
over the Internet. I think there may have been a lawsuit for false
advertising over that one.

- --Bob.

On 2017-04-23 10:21 PM, Alex Beamish via talk wrote:
> Bob,
> 
> Thanks for this note -- always glad to have more discussion about
> this.
> 
> I don't know if you remember a Bell Canada commercial from the 80's
> that featured four businessmen, each in different locations,
> starting what looked like a teleconference. Ended up, they were
> actually a barbershop quartet using teleconferencing to hold their
> practise. You're right, that due to the latency, this really
> wouldn't work.
> 
> However, the plan is the chorus would be in Toronto, and the coach
> would be in St. Louis, MO -- so the latency wouldn't be a
> significant factor. I have multiple alternatives to Skype, and the
> suggestion to use a Rogers Rocket Stick is a great one, so I may go
> with that.
> 
> I really appreciate all of the comments -- thanks again, all!
> 
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:29 PM, Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com>
> wrote:
> 
> If you're trying to synchronize singing between different
> locations you'll probably find that even the fastest connections
> have unacceptable latency. Imagine there's a .1 second lag between
> you. When the conductor says "Go" the group in the same location
> starts immediately, but the remote group hears "Go" at t=0.1 and by
> the time the local group hears the remote group start it's t=0.2
> There's no way to synchronize two choirs in different locations
> (although someone may be able to synch separate soundtracks in
> post-production).
> 
> But, you may want to try the Mumble client (or Plumble on an
> Android device) using a Murmur server.  Mumble allows you to record
> each remote connection separately in its own sound file for
> post-production processing.
> 
> Mumble /Plumble / Murmur is an audio-only solution, no video.
> There's a text chat channel, tho.
> 
> --Bob.
> 
> On 2017-04-19 12:08 AM, Alex Beamish via talk wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> My chorus is thinking about having a coach work with us over
>>>> a Skype connection, with the catch that we rehearse at a
>>>> church whose WiFi we're not allowed to use. (It's
>>>> complicated.)
>>>> 
>>>> It would be possible to use a cell phone as a hotspot, but
>>>> I'm not sure if it would provide enough bandwidth for the
>>>> call. The rehearsal would be about three hours, so at 128kbps
>>>> (Google's answer for Video calling), that would burn through
>>>> 135M, so about 1/7 of my monthly allotment. Then again, video
>>>> isn't necessarily required, and that would cut down the
>>>> required bandwidth to 30kbps.
>>>> 
>>>> Are there any alternative products or services that anyone
>>>> could suggest for this type of application?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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