[GTALUG] Dirty Power and Wi Fi Far field effect

Dave Cramer davecramer at gmail.com
Sat Mar 14 13:49:39 UTC 2015


Dave Cramer

On 14 March 2015 at 09:07, Russell Reiter <rreiter91 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure what happened here but I just replied to Lennart's post and
> then got James and the others posts on this thread. Toasted tower = New
> tablet = New learning curve.
>
> I see that most don't buy into my theory and in fact I have a hard time
> with it myself, which is why I posted it to the list. Clean power is
> important to people, perhaps more so today than at any other time in our
> development as human society(ies).
>
> Given that most computers now use switching power supplies which are
incredibly tolerant of voltage and phase I would like to hear the rationale
to the above statement ?


> We tend to think of most of the aspects of technology that we use today to
> be cut and dried ie. Doctors provide medicine, lawyers provide legal
> services etc. However, when you read the fine print you find that a person
> is engaged in a medical or legal practice and I simply extend this
> postulation to electrical practices.
>
> High tension electrical engineering is a quantative and qualitative
> science. However, there is an almost mystical quality to electricity which
> only first responding power workers experience first hand. Historically
> this resulted in many deaths. Science recorded those experiential outcomes
> and has adjusted it's own theories and practices accordingly.
>

huh ?

>
> Here is one of my war stories of sustainable development and the grid.
>
> I was working as a lead hand in the construction of a recording studio.
> One of my responsibilities was to ensure the control room was acoustically
> accurate. ie conforming to specifications. The mixing board was a half
> million dollars of solid state logic circuit clusters.
>
> Ontario Hydro promises +- 3% flux in power but when we tested power on our
> side of the isolation terminals we were spiking to 7%. Hydro took some time
> to sort out what the problem was. Turns out that a auto body shop on the
> same street had wired one leg of its welding unit out of phase and it was
> sending spikes out all over the place. So instead of directing the owner to
> wire it correctly, Hydro ran a new clean leg up to our unit. They did it
> hot and in the rain, kudos to their skills and training.
>
> Why, because the cost of using the courts to cause conformity was more
> expensive than the kludge they actually implemented. So whenever I'm
> discussing power and someone tells me this is the way it is, I find myself
> saying, no that is the way it should be.
>
> What a thing is and what it should be are two different things. One is a
> theory and one is a fact. Facts which are uniformly agreed upon are
> considered to be the status quo. Here is the status quo of north Americas
> power grid as expressed by a British engineer lo these many decades ago.
> "North America was wired with a great deal of optimism and little regard
> for the common earth."
>
> So in my mind every poorly grounded home or miswired factory on the load
> balanced grid is a potential source of problems which are not necessilarly
> going to manifest themselves in an easily discernable manner. Converting
> 60hz to 50hz can be done at any point in the grid if the proper equipment
> is installed and could do a lot to clean up errant spikes which could
> adversely affect expensive computer controlled equipment.
>
> One of the first things a welder learns is how to orient themselves in
> respect to the unit so they don't cook their liver when they operate the
> equipment.
>

Can you explain? What causes their liver to cook ?


> If a programming environment may be described as an ecosystem, which it
> often is, can we not also allow for mystical qualities - that some things
> happen behind the scenes and they may be things of which we, as end users,
> are not fully aware.
>
> One further point. The current state of EM warfare is so advanced that any
> major municipality who is not hardening its grid is doing a significant
> disservice to its population. Nothing of what I have said is beyond the
> possible realm of the current state of things.
>
> In fact recently 27 US sailors asked to be relieved of duty after a soviet
> jet disabled their warship in the black sea. The soviets used an EM weapon
> to disable all command and control systems and flew simulated attack
> sorties over the ship till they ran out of file and went home.
>
> reference ?
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