Stallman about surveillance

[Bob Jonkman]

Stewart C. Russell wrote:
> *: there's some doubt amongst the environmental engineering crowd 
> that the Oakville plant could ever have been permitted anyway. What 
> with the particulates and emissions from the 403 and the plumes that
>  belch up our way from the grubby old coal plants in the Ohio River 
> valley, Oakville is already at a very low air quality without the 
> additional gas generation.

Isn't there already a natural gas generating station in Oakville at
Trafalgar Road and the 401?
OpenStreetMap: http://osm.org/go/ZXtfkNYF-?m=

Funny, OSM shows no power lines emanating from it. Needs a mapping party...

> Okay, I'll be quiet now. Not everyone geeks to electrical supply and
> demand.

Probably more of us on this list than normal for a given population...

--Bob.


On 13-11-01 10:05 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote:
> On 13-11-01 07:45 AM, James Knott wrote:
>> 
>> The ones we spent over a billion on not getting.
> 
> While paying for generation you're never going to get is expensive, 
> the cancelled plants* weren't of the type I as meaning. They were 
> going to be combined cycle, which adds a steam plant to a heavy frame
> gas turbine. They are fairly efficient, can have medium to high
> capacity factors, but take a little time to spin up and raise steam.
> 
> The expensive peakers are basically a jet engine in a box with a 
> shaft going to a generator. All the heat from the exhaust is wasted.
>  These can be spun up in minutes, but might only run 10% of the
> time.
> 
> Okay, I'll be quiet now. Not everyone geeks to electrical supply and
>  demand.
> 
> cheers, Stewart
> 
> *: there's some doubt amongst the environmental engineering crowd 
> that the Oakville plant could ever have been permitted anyway. What 
> with the particulates and emissions from the 403 and the plumes that
>  belch up our way from the grubby old coal plants in the Ohio River 
> valley, Oakville is already at a very low air quality without the 
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