Stallman about surveillance

[Stewart C. Russell]

On 13-11-01 07:45 AM, James Knott wrote:
> 
> The ones we spent over a billion on not getting.

While paying for generation you're never going to get is expensive, the
cancelled plants* weren't of the type I as meaning. They were going to
be combined cycle, which adds a steam plant to a heavy frame gas
turbine. They are fairly efficient, can have medium to high capacity
factors, but take a little time to spin up and raise steam.

The expensive peakers are basically a jet engine in a box with a shaft
going to a generator. All the heat from the exhaust is wasted. These can
be spun up in minutes, but might only run 10% of the time.

Okay, I'll be quiet now. Not everyone geeks to electrical supply and demand.

cheers,
 Stewart

*: there's some doubt amongst the environmental engineering crowd that
the Oakville plant could ever have been permitted anyway. What with the
particulates and emissions from the 403 and the plumes that belch up our
way from the grubby old coal plants in the Ohio River valley, Oakville
is already at a very low air quality without the additional gas generation.
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