Munich completes move to linux

Dave Cramer davecramer-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org
Mon Jun 3 10:04:12 UTC 2013


Dave Cramer


On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:51 PM, William Park <opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA at public.gmane.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 02, 2013 at 09:30:25AM -0400, William Muriithi wrote:
> > > > Taxes is a subject I am passionate about and I am not shy of
> > > > supporting.
> > >
> > > Just because there are few things that should be paid by tax, it
> doesn't
> > > necessarily mean that everything else should also be paid by tax.
> > >
> >
> > Doh, I didn't say everything so can't figure out where you got that from.
> >
> > > > Seriously,  however painful taxes are, it well proven that a society
> > > > without taxes usually goes to the dog petty fast. Look around and you
> > > > will notice only those countries with high taxes are doing well. It
> > > > can't be luck, the pattern is too consistent.
> > >
> > > Care to name one or two?
> >
> > Sweden, Finland
>
> They are not doing well.  Their cost of living (housing, car, fuel,
> food, etc.) are all expensive.  They introduced broad welfare system in
> 70s and 80s (you may be basing your impression from that), but they got
> off that.  For example, they cut off assistance if you don't take 1st or
> 2nd job offer (2nd hand info).  Their GDP is $0.5T and $0.2T, while
> Canada and US are $1.8T and $15T, respectively. (T=Trillion).  If you're
> arguing GDP per capita, I'd counter by saying Qatar and UAE are doing
> better than Sweden and Finlan by having no tax at all.
>


You didn't have to go that far to find a place without tax. Alberta has no
Provincial Sales tax.

However what it has in common with Qatar, and UAE is that it has oil. So
clearly you need to either be very resource rich or collect taxes.

Dave
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