Ubuntu Edge
Tim Tisdall
tisdall-DXT9u3ndKiSh7up9GtFB90EOCMrvLtNR at public.gmane.org
Tue Jul 30 18:58:02 UTC 2013
Where did you get a Nexus 4 for $150??
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:51 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier <hugh-pmF8o41NoarQT0dZR+AlfA at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> | From: Lennart Sorensen <lsorense-1wCw9BSqJbv44Nm34jS7GywD8/FfD2ys at public.gmane.org>
> | To: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org
> | Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:58:52 -0400
> | Subject: Re: [TLUG]: Ubuntu Edge
> | Reply-To: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org
> |
> | On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:52:10AM -0400, David Mason wrote:
> | > Cool phone, idea, and video. They're almost 1/4 of the way to their
> | > corwdfunding goal!
> | >
> | > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
> | >
> | > I have a big investment in the iOS world, but I'm definitely tempted.
>
> I haven't studied this closesly since I wrote it off early, but I'll
> explain why.
>
> What is the innovation here?
> - sexy new hardware
> - sexy old/new OS
>
> Attmepting two innovations at once severely reduces your chances of
> success (or reduces your risk tolerance in each innovation, an
> unfortunate thing).
>
> What's interesting about each?
>
> Sexy new hardware: stated goal is to make it capable of being your
> desktop, when plugged into stuff like a monitor and keyboard. That's
> interesting to me. Motorola tried that and failed.
>
> Everything else appears to be the same goals as many other handset
> makers are striving for, and doing well. I don't think that I have to
> front the risk to make this happen, it will anyway.
>
> Sexy old/new OS: Shuttleworth is an interesting guy. He's on a very
> different value-system from me. I don't like where Ubuntu has been
> going and I imagine that the phone will only be more off-track.
>
> Will the Linux we're comfortable be any more visible on Ubuntu for
> phones than on Adroid?
>
> A project closer to my heart was the Neo FreeRunner. We all know how
> that turned out.
>
> How about Replicant? I've not followed that, but it seems
> interesting.
>
> | Hmm I looked at it and had some issues with the design:
> |
> | Screen resolution too low
>
> "Resolution" is ambiguous these days. As you later said: not enough
> pixels on the screen. You didn't object to the pixel density.
>
> I guess it would be great for a phone right now. But phones seem to
> get stale within a couple of years. And this phone is still perhaps a
> year out.
>
> | It has Ubuntu on it
>
> Interesting to have Ubuntu. Not good enough to invest a lot of time
> into.
>
> | It has Android on it
>
> I've forgotten which of the many possible objections you might have
> are central. Would Replicant address some of them?
>
> The mobile phone culture is really wrong for me. The default
> expectation of massive information leaks is horrible. It would be
> great if there was an alternative that was mainstream. Ubuntu's
> behaviour suggests they are part of the problem, not the solution.
>
> I love (some) mobile phone hardware. I just bought a Nexus 4 phone
> for somelthing like $150, no commitment. That's awesome. 1280x768
> isn't good enough for Lennart. It's good enough for me, at least for
> now. I intend to discover if it is all I need to carry
> when I leave the house.
>
> I think the saddest lack of pixels is in notebooks. Mainstream
> netbooks had significantly fewer (1024x600) than my new phone. Most
> other notebooks are 1366x768. Yuck. Only the 15" MacBook Pro with
> Retina display (2880x1800; $2199) beats my Nexus 10 tablet
> (2560x1200; $409).
>
> My tastes may differ from the mainstream. I see very little mention
> of the Nexus 10 in Kijiji which suggests few were bought
> (alternatively: few are unloved).
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