Ubuntu Edge
Lennart Sorensen
lsorense-1wCw9BSqJbv44Nm34jS7GywD8/FfD2ys at public.gmane.org
Tue Jul 30 19:20:16 UTC 2013
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 02:51:45PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
> I haven't studied this closesly since I wrote it off early, but I'll
> explain why.
>
> What is the innovation here?
> - sexy new hardware
> - sexy old/new OS
>
> Attmepting two innovations at once severely reduces your chances of
> success (or reduces your risk tolerance in each innovation, an
> unfortunate thing).
>
> What's interesting about each?
>
> Sexy new hardware: stated goal is to make it capable of being your
> desktop, when plugged into stuff like a monitor and keyboard. That's
> interesting to me. Motorola tried that and failed.
>
> Everything else appears to be the same goals as many other handset
> makers are striving for, and doing well. I don't think that I have to
> front the risk to make this happen, it will anyway.
>
> Sexy old/new OS: Shuttleworth is an interesting guy. He's on a very
> different value-system from me. I don't like where Ubuntu has been
> going and I imagine that the phone will only be more off-track.
Yeah it's a strange world where Ubuntu is heading from my point of view.
Of course I am not sure where Microsoft is heading either given what
they thought was a good idea in Windows 8.
> Will the Linux we're comfortable be any more visible on Ubuntu for
> phones than on Adroid?
>
> A project closer to my heart was the Neo FreeRunner. We all know how
> that turned out.
Yeah I remember that.
> How about Replicant? I've not followed that, but it seems
> interesting.
Well it certainly improves some of the bad parts of your typical Android
build.
> "Resolution" is ambiguous these days. As you later said: not enough
> pixels on the screen. You didn't object to the pixel density.
>
> I guess it would be great for a phone right now. But phones seem to
> get stale within a couple of years. And this phone is still perhaps a
> year out.
Yeah it will look even more dated by then.
> Interesting to have Ubuntu. Not good enough to invest a lot of time
> into.
I don't need a portable desktop. Where am I going to find a screen and
mouse/keyboard lying around not in use that I can use with the correct
type of HDMI cable?
> I've forgotten which of the many possible objections you might have
> are central. Would Replicant address some of them?
Not really. I don't like that google claims to be open source when
in fact it is a closed development process that eventually releases
source code.
Also I don't like java, and android apps are written in java.
The only phone I know of with a decent language API for apps right now
is the Apple stuff, and I really hate their policies towards their users.
> The mobile phone culture is really wrong for me. The default
> expectation of massive information leaks is horrible. It would be
> great if there was an alternative that was mainstream. Ubuntu's
> behaviour suggests they are part of the problem, not the solution.
>
> I love (some) mobile phone hardware. I just bought a Nexus 4 phone
> for somelthing like $150, no commitment. That's awesome. 1280x768
> isn't good enough for Lennart. It's good enough for me, at least for
> now. I intend to discover if it is all I need to carry
> when I leave the house.
Well I use a Nokia 6086. I think the screen is 320x240. It makes
phone calls. It's a good cell phone. It fits in my pocket without
risking damaging it. :)
I will get a smartphone when someone makes a good one worth carrying
around.
> I think the saddest lack of pixels is in notebooks. Mainstream
> netbooks had significantly fewer (1024x600) than my new phone. Most
> other notebooks are 1366x768. Yuck. Only the 15" MacBook Pro with
> Retina display (2880x1800; $2199) beats my Nexus 10 tablet
> (2560x1200; $409).
Yeah my laptop is only 1920x1080. I wish it had more.
> My tastes may differ from the mainstream. I see very little mention
> of the Nexus 10 in Kijiji which suggests few were bought
> (alternatively: few are unloved).
My wife has a Transformer Infinity, which is 1920x1200 on a 10" tablet.
She likes it. The keyboard dock with the extra 5 hours of battery is
an interesting feature.
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Len Sorensen
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