Does KDE really suck this much?

Walter Dnes waltdnes-SLHPyeZ9y/tg9hUCZPvPmw at public.gmane.org
Sat Dec 28 13:59:53 UTC 2013


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 06:26:54PM -0500, Jamon Camisso wrote

> I don't recall the switch to KDE4 from 3 being that much of an issue.

[...but...]

> I respect the KDE devs for also pushing ahead and rebuilding the
> core environment to make it more modular and expandable for others,
> ***DESPITE THE HOWLS OF PROTEST FROM USERS***

  If it wasn't much of an issue, why the howls of protest from users?

> who don't develop with it as a platform.

  Which raises the question... is KDE a desktop environment or a
development platform?

> KDE5 has been under way for some time now and will be a refinement of 4,
> with more flexibility for mobile applications. I'd be surprised if many
> on this list even know about that roadmap that goes back to 2011.

  KDE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc, etc, etc.  Reminds me of...

Windows 95
Windows 98/SE
Windows NT
Windows 2000
Windows XP
Windows Vista
Windows 7
Windows 8

  Back before I retired, we had training courses at work each time we
"upgraded".  To quote the Firesign Theatre comedy album... "Everything
you know is wrong"; finding systems settings was a special pain each
time we "upgraded Windows".  Meanwhile, here at home, I've been using a
combination of ICEWM and the command line.  Retraining is *NOT* required
every year or 2.

> I set my KDE bar to autohide as well, and with an alt+f2 run dialog,
> lt+ta to switch applications, and f12 for my trusty yakuake, it's rare
> that I use the mouse/menus at all when I'm really focused on a task.
> 
> I think that ought to be the benchmark of a good desktop environment -
> how well it gets out of the way when you need it to, and how easily it
> can be brought to the fore when context switching.

  It's more than just autohiding.  I've noticed long threads about
resource-hogging and slow response because of nearly continuous indexing
(Nepomuk/Strigi/Akonadi/etc).  I may be biased because I ran almost 7
years on a Dell (450 mhz Pentium, 256 megabytes *MAIN RAM*, and 8
megabytes video card), before it died on me.  Dells last a long time for
me.  More recently, I recycled a Dell Core 2 Dell to Free Geeks.  It
still worked, but was unable to handle Youtube 1080 HD video and had
problems with NHL Gamecentre Live streams.

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