udev reorders assignment [was Re: Solved Debian update - keyboard responsive, Lennart Sorrenson not so much]

[Russell Reiter]

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Christopher Browne <cbbrowne-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Russell Reiter <rreiter91-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:52 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier <hugh-pmF8o41NoarQT0dZR+AlfA at public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>> All of this is only of historic interest now.  BSD won a long long
>>> time ago.  It is good enough.  I read Plan 9's marketplace failure as
>>> demonstrating that doing things right isn't enough of a win for folks
>>> to change.
>>
>> I like history it helps to plan for the future.
>>
>> How did Minix fit into things? Was it a precursor for Plan 9? Isn't
>> that what Linus Torvalds was working from when he started writing the
>> drivers for intel chipsets?
>>
>> I understand that Minix was developed, maybe not entirely but at least
>> in part here in Toronto at UofT.
>
> At UofT?  Hardly.
>
> It was developed at Vrije Universiteit by Andrew Tanembaum.  No
> material Toronto connections.

I think I recall Rasmus Lernorf, or maybe somebody in the audience
mentioning it when he was here talking about developing PHP while
working at UofT a few years ago. I think he moved on to bell labs and
tweaked PHP while he was there. This was the lecture in English. I
skipped the GSU afterward as that was more likely to have been in
Klingon. I skipped next years return lecture as well, as it was to
have be held entirely in Klingon.

>
> There's a connection with Linux, in that Linus Torvalds created Linux
> as something of a followup to Minix, as he was keen on hacking on
> 80386 stuff, and Tanembaum wasn't keen on that kind of
> non-portability.
>
> Plan 9 comes from a quite completely different direction; it was
> created at Bell Labs as a successor to UNIX.  Linux has adopted a few
> bits of Plan 9, but it's of a radically different "lineage;" no common
> 'genetic material.'
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