OT today is the day

Thomas Milne tbrucemilne-TcoXwbchSccMMYnvST3LeUB+6BGkLq7r at public.gmane.org
Wed Oct 27 13:07:58 UTC 2010


On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:00 PM, marthter <marthter-FFYn/CNdgSA at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On 10-10-25 11:27 PM, William Park wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 03:31:30PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 03:05:26PM -0400, Mike Kallies wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I vehemently oppose Rob Ford because of his preposterous transit plan.
>>>> Everything else on this campaign is fluff.
>>>
>>> Well anyone that thinks street cards should be replaced by busses
>>> because leaving room for cars is a good thing is nuts.  Your best bet
>>> is to elliminate most cars from downtown.  Other major cities around
>>> the world have done it and boy does it make things better.
>>>
>>> If transit worked well, people would not want to drive into downtown.
>>> So the solution is to fix transit, not make it better for cars (because
>>> you can never make enough room for cars in downtown toronto to avoid
>>> traffic problems, and the streetcars are not the problem).  If you want
>>> cars to have an easier time, elliminate pedestrians.  They get in the
>>> way of cars all the time.  :)
>>
>> I live in Mississauga, and commute 100km per day.  So, I may be biased,
>> but I'm utterly opposed to Public Transit.  If city wants to assist
>> people with transportation, then city can run "public car rental".
>
> This more than just biased, this is the kind of selfish attitude that, in my
> experience, is typical of most conservative politics and its supporters...
>
> "_I_ don't go to the library so cut library budget."
>
> "_I_ don't have school age kids so cut education funding."
>
> "_I_ don't go to the public swimming pools so there does not need to be a
> parks and rec budget."
>
> "_I_ don't go to the museum, art gallery, theatre so there is no need for
> cultural and arts funding."
>
> Having these things contributes to the well-being of the society as a whole,
> whether you in particular use them or not.  And, I'm sorry but if people who
> are "utterly opposed to public transit" got their way, many of the people
> pumping your gas and serving your drive-through coffee couldn't get to their
> work so that YOU can commute to your work.
>
> I'd much rather live in a civilization than just in an economy.

I like that. Well said.

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