OT today is the day

William Muriithi william.muriithi-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org
Wed Nov 3 21:29:14 UTC 2010


This is a good read related to this old thread

http://www.economist.com/node/17363399/print

That is from a magazine that lean to the right

William

On 27 October 2010 09:07, Thomas Milne <tbrucemilne-TcoXwbchSccMMYnvST3LeUB+6BGkLq7r at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:00 PM, marthter <marthter-FFYn/CNdgSA at public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> On 10-10-25 11:27 PM, William Park wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 03:31:30PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 03:05:26PM -0400, Mike Kallies wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I vehemently oppose Rob Ford because of his preposterous transit plan.
>>>>> Everything else on this campaign is fluff.
>>>>
>>>> Well anyone that thinks street cards should be replaced by busses
>>>> because leaving room for cars is a good thing is nuts.  Your best bet
>>>> is to elliminate most cars from downtown.  Other major cities around
>>>> the world have done it and boy does it make things better.
>>>>
>>>> If transit worked well, people would not want to drive into downtown.
>>>> So the solution is to fix transit, not make it better for cars (because
>>>> you can never make enough room for cars in downtown toronto to avoid
>>>> traffic problems, and the streetcars are not the problem).  If you want
>>>> cars to have an easier time, elliminate pedestrians.  They get in the
>>>> way of cars all the time.  :)
>>>
>>> I live in Mississauga, and commute 100km per day.  So, I may be biased,
>>> but I'm utterly opposed to Public Transit.  If city wants to assist
>>> people with transportation, then city can run "public car rental".
>>
>> This more than just biased, this is the kind of selfish attitude that, in my
>> experience, is typical of most conservative politics and its supporters...
>>
>> "_I_ don't go to the library so cut library budget."
>>
>> "_I_ don't have school age kids so cut education funding."
>>
>> "_I_ don't go to the public swimming pools so there does not need to be a
>> parks and rec budget."
>>
>> "_I_ don't go to the museum, art gallery, theatre so there is no need for
>> cultural and arts funding."
>>
>> Having these things contributes to the well-being of the society as a whole,
>> whether you in particular use them or not.  And, I'm sorry but if people who
>> are "utterly opposed to public transit" got their way, many of the people
>> pumping your gas and serving your drive-through coffee couldn't get to their
>> work so that YOU can commute to your work.
>>
>> I'd much rather live in a civilization than just in an economy.
>
> I like that. Well said.
>
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