Linus Torvalds: 'Linux is bloated'

Christopher Browne cbbrowne-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at
Tue Sep 22 20:54:18 UTC 2009

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Darryl Moore <darryl-90a536wCiRb3fQ9qLvQP4Q at> wrote:
> Maybe I'm a purist, or simply thick, but the difference between Linux
> and the Linux kernel is exactly what?

In the "old days," the GNU System was to consist of the combination of
a kernel (which they never really got finished writing) as well as
user space applications.

People actively use the term "Linux" to refer to 3 things:

a) A certain kernel which is definitely distinct from other kernels
(e.g. - *BSD, Minix, Solaris, ...)

b) Collections of computer software that *include* the kernel mentioned in a)

c) Software that happens to be able to run atop the kernel mentioned
in a).  Commonly missing the fact that:
 i) that the software often runs perfectly well on other "flavours"
like BSD, Solaris, ...
 ii) that the software may even run perfectly well on systems
demonstrably NOT much like Linux (e.g. - Windows)
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