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[James Knott]

Madison Kelly wrote:
> Dave Germiquet wrote:
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> All I have to comment is.
>>
>> I have had prayers answered, simple ones that saved my life. Stuff
>> that couldn't just be coincidence. I've understood things, I normally
>> would never have understood.
>>
>> It all depends on if you pass things off not god just because you
>> don't want to believe. Miracles happen every day. Jesus makes himself
>> known through everyday life....
>>
>> People just need to open there eyes. And sometimes science matches
>> religion, sometimes its theories contradict.
>>
>> Because of my faith, he makes himself known.
>
> There is a story I heard years ago, and I think it's a good analogy
> for religion or the lack thereof.
>
> Imaging a city. Now image a town to the north and a town to the south.
> If two people, one from either town, went to the city, they'd be
> traveling in completely different directions. Even so, neither is
> going the wrong way.
>
> For some, pure science is their route to the city, and the city being
> an understanding of big questions like "why do we exist?". For others,
> like yourself, Christian teachings is your route. Others have
> different ways again. None are wrong for the simple reason that no one
> can ever really know the answer.
>
> Heck, even Stephen Hawking, an atheist, has said that what we study
> does not preclude the existence of a creator. It does however try to
> understand this existence.

As in these quotes from him?

"What I have done is to show that it is possible for the way the
universe began to be determined by the laws of science. In that case, it
would not be necessary to appeal to God to decide how the universe
began. This doesn't prove that there is no God, only that God is not
necessary."

"The intelligent beings in these regions should therefore not be
surprised if they observe that their locality in the universe satisfies
the conditions that are necessary for their existence. It is a bit like
a rich person living in a wealthy neighborhood not seeing any poverty."

"One does not have to appeal to God to set the initial conditions for
the creation of the universe, but if one does He would have to act
through the laws of physics."

As I mentioned in another note, there was a situation in a Pennsylvania
school board about promoting creationism.  One thing that was very
apparent was the way the creationists would take a scientists words out
of context to twist them into an opposite meaning.  If you read Stephen
Hawkings books, as I have, you may find he's not such a keen believer in
a god.  He also mentions how a recent pope tried to dissuade him from
trying to research events prior to the big bang, as that was "god's domain".


>
> In the same way that I argued for the atheist-mided folk here not to
> simply dismiss your belief in a creator, I would ask that you in turn
> not dismiss their lack of belief as simply being because they've not
> accepted your god as their saviour. Your beliefs work for you. Respect
> that theirs works for them.
>

One big difference is that science is based observable fact and is
repeatable.  Religion???

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