FPTP vs MMP

Zbigniew Koziol softquake-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org
Tue Oct 9 16:26:34 UTC 2007


Fully agree.

FPTP has one serious advantage over other systems: it is most
transparent and easy to understand, therefore most like to be
considered "just". Mixed systems take the power from people and give
it in hands of politicians, therefore you will seldom hear opposition
of politicians towards its introduction.

Have in mind that after the second world war some sort of mixed
systems have been imposed in these countries that lost the war. The
reason? Well, te winning west wanted simply to have more political
control over these countries.  Till now the mixed sytem exist in
Germany, and only not so long ago Japan and Italy were able to
introduced more democratic ones.

zb.


On 10/9/07, Evan Leibovitch <evan-ieNeDk6JonTYtjvyW6yDsg at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> > 39 out of 129 seats is 30% not 45%.  So instead of 107 ridings you end
> > up with 90 ridings, so yes a decrease would occour.  It takes 3% or more
> > of the popular vote before you can get any of the proportional seats
> > (which makes sense since 2% would require 50 seats and there are only
> > 39 of them available)
> >
> The numbers such as 3% and 39 seats are completely arbitrary. They give
> the Greens power while shutting out the Family Coalition Party. As such,
> they indicate a wilful manipulation designed to advance the cause of
> small parties -- providing they're not too small. And the definition of
> " what is too small" is totally arbitrary.
>
> While FPTP has its downsides, it doesn't by design impose arbitrary
> limits on anything.
>
> And, as I mentioned before, MMP is designed to work against independent
> candidates as well as really small parties.
>
> - Evan
>
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