Sickening shilling for MS by Ontario privacy commissioner

CLIFFORD ILKAY clifford_ilkay-biY6FKoJMRdBDgjK7y7TUQ at public.gmane.org
Mon Oct 23 02:33:23 UTC 2006


On Sunday 22 October 2006 21:01, David J Patrick wrote:
> On 22/10/06, CLIFFORD ILKAY <clifford_ilkay-biY6FKoJMRdBDgjK7y7TUQ at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > I repeat this is not a Microsoft specific solution. Microsoft
> > just happens to have something implemented in Vista that
> > facilitates this identity metasystem . There are other solutions,
> > both proprietary and open, for other operating systems [snip]
>
> Perhaps the best way to avert a pure MonopolySoft security solution
> is to ensure that viable alternatives/ counterparts exist.

Can we please discuss this without having to resort to cheap shots and 
hyperbole?

> Do we know yet what the analogous open source technologies might be
> ? Other than the bits that made us batty, where is the canonical
> source of info regarding the venerable " Seven Laws of Identity
> formulated by Microsoft", and it's related open standards
> implementations ? If "a two-year collaboration of Internet experts
> and users led by Microsoft" has been undertaken, where are the
> resulting findings/ conclusions made public, or is this new
> security scheme so top-secret we can't be trusted with details ?
> Who else (other than MS and ON) was in on the development of this
> spam smashing magic ?

Who or what is "ON"? The Province of Ontario?

> Something or other is to be "grafted onto the bare bones of the
> Internet to create a security layer", have we any idea what is to
> be grafted ? what bare bones this might refer to ? and if the
> security layer in question is like any standard we have heard of ?
>
> The touted "infocards", how are they different from existing
> security certs ? Will they make security certificates
> nonfunctional/ obsolete ? How is this different from Passport ?
> Will there be a central authority to confirm or deny identity ? If
> so, where ?
>
> Will there be a vetting by impartial security experts before said
> "bare bones of the Internet" are re-jigged ? Is there a proposed
> timeframe for implementation, or is it just to early to say ?
>
> If "Ms. Cavoukian wants such personal security measures built into
> the very bones of all security systems being created by companies
> around the world", is this a brand new global open standard, where
> everyone's invited, and if so, what's the url, or is Vista gonna be
> so darned good, it's a foregone conclusion that it will be adopted
> worlwide ?
>
> we gots ta know !
> djp

A good place to start to get answers to your questions is the Linux 
Journal article I referenced earlier in this thread. Follow that up 
with some, well, maybe a lot of, reading about identity systems here: 
<http://identity20.com/> and here: <http://openid.net/>. There are 
links to other relevant sites at the bottom of the latter page.
-- 
Regards,

Clifford Ilkay
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