Smalltalk Club

[Yanni Chiu]

Evan Leibovitch wrote:
> Chris Cunnington wrote:
> 
>> Although Debian has not included Sqeuak (the Smalltalk virtual 
>> machine) in its distro yet,
>>
> Yet? Has Debian made any announced intention to change their mind and 
> include non-free (as in speech) software? Smalltalk is not open source 
> (using the OSI guidelines) or free software (under the GNU guidelines), 
> and that situation seems unlikely to change.
> 
>> as the licensing details have not been reset from the form Apple made 
>> for them in 1996, I'm not going to wait.

Squeak-1.1 is now available under APSL2. Version 1.1 is what Apple
originally released in 1996. Here's the announcement:
     http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2006-May/104466.html

Apparently, Alan Kay and Andreas Raab (a major Squeak contributor),
met with Steve Jobs a few months back, and then it happened.

Whether or not the "non-lawyers" that decide these matters at Debian
will consisider APSL2 good enough to include, is another question.

Edubuntu, Ubuntu (Dapper) release is supposed to include Squeak.
There was a push back from the education community to get Squeak
included, despite what issues Debian may have with licencing.

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