Seaside/Squeak, Ruby

[Aaron Vegh]

Hi Yanni,
I don't want to come across as a Rails zealot, especially since I'm
just starting to learn it! As a PHP developer looking for a more
structured development environment, I really like what Rails has to
offer, and I find that Ruby is a very elegant language in its own way.

I purchased the one book available for Rails, which you can also buy
as a downloadable PDF with free updates (sweet):

http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/rails/index.html

But having gone through about a third of that book, I think I have
gotten more out of this shorter PDF:

http://www.rails4days.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Rails4Days.pdf

And here, despite about three errors in the text that actually helped
me really get in and understand how Rails works, I think I really had
my "aha!" moment and understood how it all fits together: ergo, just
how flexible the environment is: you can swap in your own code quite
easily and replace Rails methods with your own. The credo of the
project is, we'll provide you with the basics, but you can do it your
own way at any point. Very elegant and very orthogonal, as ESR might
put it.

http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/html/ch04s02.html#orthogonality

Cheers,
Aaron.

On 1/20/06, Yanni Chiu <yanni-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Aaron Vegh wrote:
> > Are you referring to this presentation?
>
> No. It's a tutorial on a website where you follow the instructions
> and type code that's sent to an interpeter. It's about the features
> of the Ruby language itself. BTW, Ruby was invented as a way
> to put Smalltalk (i.e. Squeak) into a more familiar enviroment
> of file-based developers. I was wanting to get a feel for what
> working in Ruby was like, but the tutorial was doing strings,
> collections, etc. in an interpeter window, at the point where
> I stopped. The movie below gives me a much better feel for what
> it's like to work in Ruby.
>
> > http://media.rubyonrails.org/video/rails_take2_with_sound.mov
>
> Thanks for the link. If I were not coming from a Seaside/Squeak
> perspective, then I'd be wildly impressed.
>
> > This is THE demo that seems to have blown everyone away, and turned
> > Ruby from a curiosity into a Rails-driven monster. To be sure this
> > demo is a starting point, but the site has a lot more meat to it.
> >
> > http://www.rubyonrails.com/docs
> >
> > Give it more than 3 minutes and you'll see.
>
> Applications almost always get tricky at a certain level of
> complexity. What I want to know is how Ruby/Rails can let
> you stray from the norm.
>
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> Yanni Chiu
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