Fedora Linux

[lloyd-fEEwcc3XMu8jODpR/OX0VQ at public.gmane.org]

> Lloyd Budd wrote:
>> > And there also lies another challenge; why should someone experiment
>> with contributing to Fedora which might fall as quickly as it rises
>> when they could join an already-strong network of Debian packagers?
>> Fedora needs to draw from that same set of people.
>>
>> Debian is still too hard for many.
>
> This should influence people to move from the network of Debian
> packagers to Fedora precisely why?
Errr, you mention "join [...] Debian".  I was not suggesting that this
will win anyone away from Debian.  Retention of *useful* RH Users is what
is important.  If no one is skilled and  wants to be skilled on RH, then
RH will fail.


> Furthermore, this should influence people who _are_ capable of building
> packages to prefer the paucity of package management tools for Fedora
> precisely why?  (e.g. - debconf, lintian, fakeroot, debhelper, debmake,
> cvs-buildpackage, ...)
See initial errr.

Speaking of package management and becoming a packager, if that it is part
of one's motivation "the opinion" seems to be that Gentoo is easier to
learn and maintain packages for, but still has some way to go to be as
'flawless' as Debian.

It is interesting though that the comments back from that article that I
provided a link to <http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7169>
seemed most concerned that Fedora is not giving enough focus on making
their pkg mngmnt Debian enough.


> And as near as I can tell, the people to whom Debian is "too hard" are
> those that wind up with Red Hat systems that are questionably configured
> and susceptible to rootkitting.  They may have won, in the process, a
> system that they simply can't manage.
FUD.  Red Hat's available system administration and more-so Enterprise
Administration Tools are at least as good as Debian's.



>> I found http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7169 quite
>> interesting, but if it is as the author suggests then I fear an
>> outcome as you predict.  The best thing that Fedora could do is for
>> the core to stay snuggled up to the RH releases.  This homogeneity
>> would encourage the most likely users of Fedora to contribute to the
>> community.
>
> For it to stay thus "snuggled" requires that RHAT be highly
> interventionist in their management of it, which would discourage
> outsiders from participating, and prevent it from growing into a
> 'community' effort.
Well not if they estable a few releases/branches -- this is one of the
successes of Debian.  Also, I am referring to the core.



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