[GTALUG] ot: perhaps, headphones?

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi there,
You know something I have a hard time picturing what closed back actually 
means.
to my imagination open back means nothing behind my head, which is my 
preference.  are closed back those behind  your head then?
I agree on 32 for  impedance..but sometimes they are higher. even with no 
amp involved.
Kare



On Thu, 13 Jan 2022, Nicholas Krause wrote:

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> On 2022-01-13 4:25 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
>>  Hi there,
>>  Fine and interesting list.
>>  To be sure, the idea of noise cancellation, or any variation's is a no,
>>  not just because of the  sense of position, but because I have something
>>  talking in my ears when I use them in this particular setting..no phone
>>  ringing, door bells, or the all important music  playing  in the
>>  background.
>>  As I have been a radio producer, and professional singer for many many
>>  years, over the ear headphones are the most comfortable, speaking
>>  personally.
>>  I  truly dislike earbuds, they tend not to stay in my ears, to put
>>  pressure on my ear canal etc...and the buttons are a no, mic interferes
>>  with  the machine.
>>  The most important thing, for this particular set of headphones though is
>>  A combination of frequency range, sensitivity, impedance, and driver
>>  units...oh and input power.
>>  a few settings in the wrong direction, and the headphones will make me
>>  dizzy..literary.
>>  And those numbers can be device specific, what I will use for my reading
>>  edge, differs for what I use for production, or music listening, or
>>  whatever.
>>  It is part of why once found I may buy more than one pair.
>>  Cannot fault you for using the same ones  since the 80's. Had a set once
>>  I got from radio shack that I used for  more than a decade as well.
>>  Goodness but I miss radio shack.
>>  Kare
>> 
> Greetings Karen,
> I would not find the model in the previous email. However, my two sense
> are over ear can mean different things. A current pair of headphones was
> stated that but it's more what Hugh was calling something else.
>
> The other things were I normally prefer open backed as it's the only way
> to not screw around with frequency issues. I've my reasons. As to
> standard closed backs AKG, Sennheiser, Sony are the big good players
> from memory. I'm not sure of the site design for your needs so sorry :(.
> Your original pair was around 200 dollars from memory and they all
> have something good in that price point to my knowledge.
>
>
> As to weight normally anything under 400 grams is fine for most people.
> And for impendance it should be 32 ohms or less if your not using an
> actual amp.
>
> Take care,
> Nick
>>
>>
>>  On Thu, 13 Jan 2022, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
>> 
>> > |  From: Karen Lewellen via talk <talk at gtalug.org>
>> > 
>> > |  If you desire a visual idea then perhaps google jvc ha-s44x.
>> > 
>> >  Thanks.
>> > 
>> >  From past discussions, I know your shopping technique isn't like mine.
>> >  But I'll mention my considerations on the off chance you might find them
>> >  useful.
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  Most wired headphones are electrically / electronically
>> >  interchangeable.  Of course that's a good thing.  It also means that 
>> >  there
>> >  are a lot to choose from.
>> > 
>> >  There are lots of issues of sound reproduction quality, but to be
>> >  honest, all should have sound quality that is good enough for a reader
>> >  (as I understand it).
>> > 
>> >  I would imagine that the main issues are comfort -- a very individual
>> >  thing.  Oh, and durability -- not something in the specs!
>> > 
>> >  Here's what I glean from the specs of your old headphones:
>> > 
>> >  - closed (i.e. they try to block sound from your environment)
>> > 
>> >  - over-ear [I find such headphones uncomfortable fairly quickly]
>> > 
>> >  - 5.57 ounces
>> > 
>> >  - button controls (what do they control?)
>> > 
>> >  - 1.2 m cable [the units are unspecified but 1.2 ft would be very short]
>> > 
>> >  Do you use the buttons?  What for?
>> > 
>> >  I think "over-ear" means that these clamp on your ear as opposed to
>> >  clamping on your head around the ear ("circumaural").  I find over-ear
>> >  very uncomfortable after a few minutes but I seem to be in a minority.
>> > 
>> >  Do you really want to have sound isolation from the room ("closed")?
>> >  I imagine "situational awareness" would be useful.
>> > 
>> >  Out of habit, I use ancient Sennheiser HD430 phones.  They are
>> >  circumaural, light, open [i.e. I can hear things going on in the
>> >  room], good enough sound.  They have replaceable cables and ear pads
>> >  (but now hard to find).  Out of production since 1986.  I find that
>> >  even these get uncomfortable after a while.
>> > 
>> >  My current favourite is ear-buds.  The ones with a selection of soft
>> >  tips, not the hard ones.  You can get decent inexpensive ones from 
>> >  China.
>> >  I have, for example:
>> >   https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002184896879.html
>> >  Currently C$16.84 without microphone.  I paid less.
>> >  There are many other brands that are likely fine.
>> >  There is an enthusiastic following for "Chi-fi".
>> > 
>> >  TWS (true wireless stereo) headphones are amazingly convenient if you 
>> >  have
>> >  Bluetooth.  But you don't.  There are a lot of adapters to convert 
>> >  analog
>> >  to Bluetooth but I don't have any experience with them.
>> > 
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