On Tue, 2019/09/17 05:48:31PM -0400, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk at gtalug.org> wrote: | Given mac pros the desk top units are rather new creations, Mac Pros have been avilable Since 2006, so not that new. You may be thinking of the Mac Pro cylindrical style, since 2013. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Pro