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Sammy Lao self_same_self at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 14 20:49:23 EDT 2019


I had to google what JBP stand for.
I still have the same sense of decorum now as back in Usenet days when
everybody just gave out their email address in a public forum -- don't
email people you found on Usenet unless they invited you or you are
friends. Preferably in real life.

That is insane.

On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 12:40 PM Karen Lewellen via talk <talk at gtalug.org>
wrote:

>   Can someone explain the rules about private contacts  without permission?
> It seems those on moderation are simply trying to force their case
> privately.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019, ted leslie wrote:
>
> > I got booted (life time) as you may know. I found your posts
> > in the archive.
> > First, I am NOT trying to get back into the TLUG, i have been in for 19
> > years or so
> > and for reasons not related to today, it is not an issue to be out of it.
> >
> > I first would like to state that i used the word "snowflake gen",
> > and to, I believe everyone, "gen" is a abbrv for generation, i.e. gen-x
> > intel next gen chip, etc, gen is NOT abbrev for gender, and Alex took it
> > that way.
> > To the degree SFG is really a derogative term? it wasn't 2 years ago.
> > I grew up in the 80's, the decade of the hair-band when we were all
> > supposed to be
> > screwed .. i was paraphrasing but the worst I can be accused of is
> > generation degrading!
> > I have blond hair, I have to hear "blond jokes" :)
> >
> > What Alex doesn't understand is that , as JBP preaches, its
> > equality of opportunity for the genders, not equality of outcome,
> equality
> > of outcome is
> > insane. 50/50 army soldiers, 50/50 nurses, 50/50 ditch-diggers, ?????
> >
> > I don't even have a problem IN TIME if education see 100% female
> > participants, if
> > nature, evolution or creation thinking see it that way over a reasonable
> > period of time,
> > but in 15 years? I like Ted Turner, don't believe men should be heads of
> > state, its mean,
> > but it will save a load of lives!
> > The society quake of such a quick shift, and relating to topic of
> > employment, and disruption
> > in trades and in general the world, is enormous.
> > The thinking which is not mentioned as often, is the guy who drove the
> van
> > and killed
> > people, who wrote he was avoided (or some such thing) by women, and he
> > went/was
> > nihilistic .. disruptive society bring that, if in 15-30 years there is
> > 80/20 split of F/M, that would
> > spell out the nihilist male (many) from daily repeating that terror, day
> in
> > and day out,
> > its a major imbalance of society. As JBP says, "that's not good"!
> >
> > JBP has a lot to say about it, and I can't do it justice but I am making
> it
> > a point to try (in life)
> > He was villified by _some_ womans groups early on in 2017, now he gets
> > invited to speak to
> > them in his same positive manner, because woman do not want equality of
> > outcome,
> > they want equality of opportunity, and there is a night and day
> difference.
> > And no one wants a disrupted society that is going against the grain, to
> > cause a
> > bunch of nihilistic males, who can't adapt to that change sanely.
> >
> > I am glad this topic of discussion carried on a bit in this way for
> reasons
> > that may become apparent at some later time.
> > If anyone gets a chance to talk to Alex, please tell him:
> > 1) gen= generation. (obviously)
> > 2) his slander of me, do to that, did go to the archives, so if my name
> is
> > googled this comes up, i told him to remove it or allow two sided of the
> > story. Why do I want to sue tlug/alex? i don't but he has to choose one
> or
> > the other. He removes, fine, he allows me to submit a brief my side
> > of story, and JBP gets some more followers and the world will be a bit
> > better for it :) I have a felling Alex is not for debates and exchange of
> > info, so hopefully he just drops the whole thing
> >
> > The topic went off topic, but I think my Harper comments were right on at
> > least what was still being discussed. Outsourcing to India is a sore
> topic,
> > a 80/20 split in 15 years, much sorer topic for employment for many, and
> > many other things. It would appear my current JBP "mandate" had me all to
> > happily segway onto that second section of my email, to my sincere
> apology,
> > more for the off-topic, and less so for the gen!=gender issue , which you
> > can pass on to Alex or board if you have chance. [but again have no
> > interest to return to the board, I don't blame him for jumping, I do
> blame
> > him for not wanting to at least discuss, even a bit] And there are some
> > who emailed me after that did also argue the case to Alex, and I
> certainly
> > didn't ask them to do that, so good on them.
> >
> > And apologies if this is an interruption, or a read, that you don't get
> > that 100 seconds back in your life. Now I have to get back to doing my
> JBP
> > home work , and finish reading Gulag Archipelago :)   (argh, but I am
> > serious).
> > But seriously, I am grateful the conversation did carry on, at least a
> > little bit by y'all.
> >
> > -tl
> >
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