[GTALUG] GTALUG

[Russell Reiter]

On Thu, Mar 14, 2019, 12:40 PM Karen Lewellen via talk, <talk at gtalug.org>
wrote:

>   Can someone explain the rules about private contacts  without permission?
> It seems those on moderation are simply trying to force their case
> privately.
>

Generally when a list is moderated, the organization providing the
messaging service sets rules regarding the form and content of posts. For
instance a list devoted to troubleshooting graphical issues might require
that certain information regarding hardware be provided with the question.

An UN-moderated list is more freeform and if an individual posters content
offends someone, others are free to ignore it or block the sender so they
don't see any of those messages.

As far as being contacted offlist by a moderator, that is a courtesy the
list maintainer may or may not provide. When you provided the server your
email address, you joined the list and on this list it is the moderator, or
agent who forwards the list messages to you.

A lot of places expect you to read and follow the rules and just boot you
off if you fail to follow them.

This list has active moderation and that includes offlist warnings for
infractions of the rules. Warned persons posts are delayed and usually held
for review for a period of time to ensure compliance.

This is a technology list and at a bare minimum the topics are to be
focused on the use and implementation of the linux kernel and by extension
GNU software running on linux.

The right to repair is a very political issue and while those issues do
touch on Linux, they are not core to the mandate of topical Linux, so to
speak. That thread degenerated into divisive economic grounds which don't
provide any particular solidarity under the GTAlug banner and people are
being warned to stay on topic.

HTH
Russell



>
>
> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019, ted leslie wrote:
>
> > I got booted (life time) as you may know. I found your posts
> > in the archive.
> > First, I am NOT trying to get back into the TLUG, i have been in for 19
> > years or so
> > and for reasons not related to today, it is not an issue to be out of it.
> >
> > I first would like to state that i used the word "snowflake gen",
> > and to, I believe everyone, "gen" is a abbrv for generation, i.e. gen-x
> > intel next gen chip, etc, gen is NOT abbrev for gender, and Alex took it
> > that way.
> > To the degree SFG is really a derogative term? it wasn't 2 years ago.
> > I grew up in the 80's, the decade of the hair-band when we were all
> > supposed to be
> > screwed .. i was paraphrasing but the worst I can be accused of is
> > generation degrading!
> > I have blond hair, I have to hear "blond jokes" :)
> >
> > What Alex doesn't understand is that , as JBP preaches, its
> > equality of opportunity for the genders, not equality of outcome,
> equality
> > of outcome is
> > insane. 50/50 army soldiers, 50/50 nurses, 50/50 ditch-diggers, ?????
> >
> > I don't even have a problem IN TIME if education see 100% female
> > participants, if
> > nature, evolution or creation thinking see it that way over a reasonable
> > period of time,
> > but in 15 years? I like Ted Turner, don't believe men should be heads of
> > state, its mean,
> > but it will save a load of lives!
> > The society quake of such a quick shift, and relating to topic of
> > employment, and disruption
> > in trades and in general the world, is enormous.
> > The thinking which is not mentioned as often, is the guy who drove the
> van
> > and killed
> > people, who wrote he was avoided (or some such thing) by women, and he
> > went/was
> > nihilistic .. disruptive society bring that, if in 15-30 years there is
> > 80/20 split of F/M, that would
> > spell out the nihilist male (many) from daily repeating that terror, day
> in
> > and day out,
> > its a major imbalance of society. As JBP says, "that's not good"!
> >
> > JBP has a lot to say about it, and I can't do it justice but I am making
> it
> > a point to try (in life)
> > He was villified by _some_ womans groups early on in 2017, now he gets
> > invited to speak to
> > them in his same positive manner, because woman do not want equality of
> > outcome,
> > they want equality of opportunity, and there is a night and day
> difference.
> > And no one wants a disrupted society that is going against the grain, to
> > cause a
> > bunch of nihilistic males, who can't adapt to that change sanely.
> >
> > I am glad this topic of discussion carried on a bit in this way for
> reasons
> > that may become apparent at some later time.
> > If anyone gets a chance to talk to Alex, please tell him:
> > 1) gen= generation. (obviously)
> > 2) his slander of me, do to that, did go to the archives, so if my name
> is
> > googled this comes up, i told him to remove it or allow two sided of the
> > story. Why do I want to sue tlug/alex? i don't but he has to choose one
> or
> > the other. He removes, fine, he allows me to submit a brief my side
> > of story, and JBP gets some more followers and the world will be a bit
> > better for it :) I have a felling Alex is not for debates and exchange of
> > info, so hopefully he just drops the whole thing
> >
> > The topic went off topic, but I think my Harper comments were right on at
> > least what was still being discussed. Outsourcing to India is a sore
> topic,
> > a 80/20 split in 15 years, much sorer topic for employment for many, and
> > many other things. It would appear my current JBP "mandate" had me all to
> > happily segway onto that second section of my email, to my sincere
> apology,
> > more for the off-topic, and less so for the gen!=gender issue , which you
> > can pass on to Alex or board if you have chance. [but again have no
> > interest to return to the board, I don't blame him for jumping, I do
> blame
> > him for not wanting to at least discuss, even a bit] And there are some
> > who emailed me after that did also argue the case to Alex, and I
> certainly
> > didn't ask them to do that, so good on them.
> >
> > And apologies if this is an interruption, or a read, that you don't get
> > that 100 seconds back in your life. Now I have to get back to doing my
> JBP
> > home work , and finish reading Gulag Archipelago :)   (argh, but I am
> > serious).
> > But seriously, I am grateful the conversation did carry on, at least a
> > little bit by y'all.
> >
> > -tl
> >
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