[GTALUG] video: Benno Rice on "The Tragedy of systed"

[Christopher Browne]

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019, 6:13 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <talk at gtalug.org
wrote:

> I think that this is pretty interesting:
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> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo>
>

Interesting indeed.

It's sad, the "culture of contempt" that has grown up in this particular
place, and the speaker captures quite well the dangers and ironies.

In his culture (BSD), their risk is of...

- laughing at the foolish Linux people
- we're still using OUR init, come join us to stay in the past
- launchd is pretty cool, tho it's proprietary Apple and doesn't solve as
many problems as SystemD

Partly, SystemD suffers a cultural problem because Lennart isn't as, I
don't know, charismatic, as would have been useful.

I suspect that it's a good candidate for being written in a safer language
than C; there's a rich and troublesome "culture of contempt" there, too,
alas.

- there's a culture of "it's better because I know how to write safe C"
- also, one of concomitant contempt for C++
- Go and Rust are new and cool, and wonderful due to being new kids on the
block...

I was pleased at how he got to the description of problems being solved;
there truly are substantive problems, that matter, not addressed by
previous tools.

Personally, I see that SystemD attacks problems we need to get solved.  I
have experienced some minor problems in dealing with it, but nothing that
seems remotely worthy of the opprobrium thrown at it.

There's a social problem that sides seem not to be successfully listening
to others.

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