[GTALUG] For Chris: Commodore BASIC as a scripting language

[Russell Reiter]

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 12:35 PM William Porquet, <william at 2038.org> wrote:

> I've come to the realization that, in this day and age of hypervisors and
> virutalization, Windows has become a rather complex and somewhat buggy
> service that runs under Linux. Or is has for me, anyway.
>
> My CDN$0.02.
>

I purchased a copy of Win4lin in 1999 so I could work on the software the
NGO's I volunteered for were using. I use to resent being asked to install
cracked copies of Windows, in the name of social justice or for any other
reason for that matter. I deleted windows from my PC and could honestly say
I dont have a copy and I can't do that for you in good conscience, even if
you tell me the disks that you have are legal when I can see they are not.

If I examine what I do know about Windows these days as a non-user

In Practical Unix and Internet Security 2nd Ed. O REILLY et. al. on Pg 331
the authors wrote.

"As a matter of good policy, new software should first be installed on some
noncritical systems for testing and familiarisation. This practice gives
you an opportunity to isolate problems, identify incompatibilities, an note
quirks, Don’t install new software on a “live” production system!

Note that you should not automatically trust software from a commercial
firm or group. Sometimes commercial firms insert back doors into their code
to allow for maintenance, or recovering lost passwords. These back doors
might be secret today, but become well-known tomorrow. ...”

Outside of whether Linux considers Windows TM a non critical system or not,
the questions I have from a Linux perspective of WSL convergance are; will
the corporation become more like the people accessing the technology? or,
will the people become more like the corporation providing the technology?

To make the argument for Open Source vs. Closed Source knowledge and
intelligence, I always tell people that I chose Linux because I always
learn something rather than just how to do something.

I note some kernel now integrate ebpf tools, so the term trust but verify
hasn't lost all meaning as a core value.

https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/introduction-ebpf-red-hat-enterprise-linux-7


> William
>
> On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 at 12:31, Russell Reiter <rreiter91 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 11:48 AM William Porquet via talk <talk at gtalug.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "It's trivial to make fun of Microsoft products, but it takes a real
>>> hacker to make them work, and a god to make them do anything useful." -
>>> anonymous hacker
>>>
>>> Still true today? :-)
>>>
>>
>> I'd say so, considering the corporation which basically said Linux was
>> not secure, in order to keep their own market dominance, has now embraced
>> Linux with its own WSL.
>>
>> Perhaps the gods have their own ways of making things useful.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 at 11:43, James Knott via talk <talk at gtalug.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2019-08-26 11:34 AM, Russell Reiter wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 10:05 AM James Knott via talk, <talk at gtalug.org
>>>> > <mailto:talk at gtalug.org>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >     On 2019-08-26 08:49 AM, Russell Reiter wrote:
>>>> >     > Nobody likes to be called a thief and a parasite by somebody.
>>>> This
>>>> >     > situation, after Gates et. al. purloined acadamec knowledge for
>>>> >     > commercial endeavor, was kind of "the pot calling the kettle
>>>> >     black,"
>>>> >     > all things considered.
>>>> >
>>>> >     Of course, we can't forget BG was a dumpster diver, looking for
>>>> >     source code.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Sssh, you,re leaking M$ trade secrets. :-o
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> It's not a secret to anyone who's used Windows.  ;-)
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> "I do not fear computers.  I fear the lack of them." (Isaac Asimov)
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