[GTALUG] Linux 4.19-rc4 released, an apology, and a maintainership note

[Dave Doyle]

Just as a quick aside: On a personal level, as a developer, I have chosen
not to engage in certain communities and chosen not to use certain
technologies because of the toxicity of the community.

My mental well being is more important to me than engaging in certain
groups.  I'd be lying if I didn't say it has prevented me from sharing some
things with a wider audience because of the worry about these kinds of
things.
--
dave.s.doyle at gmail.com


On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 at 23:52, Dhaval Giani via talk <talk at gtalug.org> wrote:

> https://lwn.net/Articles/764901/
>
> ...
>
> To tie this all back to the actual 4.19-rc4 release (no, really, this
>> _is_ related!) I actually think that 4.19 is looking fairly good,
>> things have gotten to the "calm" period of the release cycle, and I've
>> talked to Greg to ask him if he'd mind finishing up 4.19 for me, so
>> that I can take a break, and try to at least fix my own behavior.
>
> ...
>
> Jono Bacon's comments on it,
>
>
> https://www.jonobacon.com/2018/09/16/linus-his-apology-and-why-we-should-support-him/
>
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>
> Another interesting article that I read over the past few days was a
> Python keynote talk,
> https://snarky.ca/setting-expectations-for-open-source-participation/
>
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>
> On a more personal note, I have seen "hostile" behavior on many mailing
> lists, which has led me from withdrawing from participating on them.
>
> We tend to attack developers without thinking of the impact on them.
>
> This list is an example of attacks on systemd. While Lennart doesn't read
> this list personally, I do know of the impact systemd criticism has had on
> him. He has shared recordings of death threats because of systemd. I think,
> we can all agree that, systemd, or pulseaudio did not make linux worse, at
> least enough to justify death threats.
>
> They haven't even made it bad enough to justify the constant attacks on
> the software.
>
> Remember, if you have a better idea, you have the _freedom_ to implement
> it. You, however, do not have the freedom to expect them to drop what they
> want to do, to fix your problems, and when they don't want to, be subject
> to attacks from you.
>
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> I do hope, Linus taking some time off will make things better for him, and
> by extension Linux.
>
> Dhaval
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