[GTALUG] debian Linux -- Installation DVDs Full Set - Shipped To Canadian Destination ??
Russell
rreiter91 at gmail.com
Sat Mar 3 09:53:16 EST 2018
On March 3, 2018 9:44:25 AM EST, "Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk" <talk at gtalug.org> wrote:
>Russell -- thanks for the tip about small footprint system rescue --
>I'll try it.
Just a small correction and a confession. Gentoo uses Portage not Aptitude as its update manager.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portage_(software)
I've never actually installed Gentoo but for a Linux pocket knife, you can't beat the System Rescue iso for portability and functions.
>
>Steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Russell
> To: Steve Petrie, P.Eng. ; GTALUG Talk
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 11:01 AM
>Subject: Re: [GTALUG] debian Linux -- Installation DVDs Full Set -
>Shipped To Canadian Destination ??
>
>
>
>
>On March 2, 2018 10:25:16 AM EST, "Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk"
><talk at gtalug.org> wrote:
> >Many thanks to the many helpful responders !!
> >
> >Too many for me to thank individually ...
> >
> >* * *
> >* * *
> >
> >Here is what I have digested and decided, based on GTALUG advivce
> >received:
> >
> >1. Thanks for the multiple offers to burn & ship DVDs and / or other
> >media.
> >
> >2. I'll accept the USB device advice, and use a USB device for the
> >installation media.
> >
> >3. I already own two (2) WD 1 TB USB drives, acquired for taking hard
> >disk backups of the new PC. So I'll try using one of those for the
> >debian Linux (LXDE) installation device.
> >
>>4. My friend has a Windows 10 setup with high speed Internet
>connection
>>so I'll see if he and I can get all three installation DVD images onto
> >that USB drive. We can't use any Linux utilities while doing that,
> >unfortunately. Then I'll try the Linux install from that USB drive.
>
>I know your final target is lxde but the System Rescue iso has a very
>small footprint and it is great for slow connections. I have done it
>for several people in the past and it contains number of very useful
>tools for disk manipulation. It uses Debian apt tools for repository
>management and is based on well documented Gentoo linux.
>
> http://www.system-rescue-cd.org
>
> >
>>5. Thanks also for the cautionary advice re: dial-up modem on Linux. I
> >did some research earlier, but of course the proof will be in the
> >actual attempt to use the modem :) I do plan to upgrade to a faster
> >(and dedicated) Internet link !! Just wanted to try first with the
>>dial-up modem. Trying to simplify my life by postponing the networking
> >upgrade. And also out of plain perverse curiosity, more than anything
> >else.
> >
> >* * *
> >* * *
> >
> >Thanks again to GTALUG members for all the advice. Makes this whole
> >shift from Windows XP to debian Linux soooo much more comfortable. No
> >doubt I'll be back in touch again at some point, during the build
> >adventure... :)
>
>I use system rescue to prepare dual boot systems and troubleshoot with
>it all the time. My copy is on a very old 1gig usb pen drive. I
>wouldn't start a fresh install without having a copy available.
>
> Good luck with the build.
> >
> >Best,
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> > From: Giles Orr
> > To: Steve Petrie, P.Eng. ; GTALUG Talk
> > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 2:24 PM
> >Subject: Re: [GTALUG] debian Linux -- Installation DVDs Full Set -
> >Shipped To Canadian Destination ??
> >
> >
> >On 1 March 2018 at 09:28, Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk
> ><talk at gtalug.org> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings To GTALUG,
> >
> >I am starting to order the parts for building a new desktop PC to run
> >debian Linux as primary operating system. Replacing an ancient Dell
> >desktop PC with MS Windows XP.
> >
> > * * *
> > * * *
> >
> >I'm looking for a source for full set of physical debian Linux (LXDE)
>>installation DVDs (NOT a live install, as I understand that Linux does
> >not yet support live install with UEFI).
> >
>>I need the installation DVDs because I use a very slow telephone-grade
>>dial-up line modem for my Internet connection, so a Linux installation
> >via network is not feasible. (I plan to try to keep using the dial-up
>>line with the new debian Linux PC, at least for the first while.
>GTALUG
>>advice put me on to the idea of using a USB dial-up modem with Linux.)
> >
> >Found a U.S.A.-side vendor www.shoplinuxonline.org but am concerned
> >about getting caught in snags with payment / collection of Canadian
> >customs duties, that may be collected by courier delivering to the
> >Canadian address from U.S.A
> >
> > * * *
> > * * *
> >
> >Does anyone know of a Canadian-side online seller of debian Linux
> >(LXDE) DVD installation sets ??
> >
> >I could potentially beg use of a friend's Windows 10 setup on Bell
>>Fibe, and download the debian Linux LXDE) DVD image files and burn the
> >DVDs myself, but I prefer to avoid the hassle and probable mistakes.
> >
> >Any thoughts from GTALUG members, on this piddling but potentially
>>messy detail of getting a full set of debian Linux (LXDE) install
>DVDs,
> >greatly appreciated !!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >The last time I had to help someone with a modem on Linux 3-4 years
> >ago, it was kind of a nightmare. Before you buy, make sure it has
>>Linux support - and then spend some time researching what they mean by
> >that, because one of the things I encountered was "has Linux support"
> >meant "if you go pay someone else for a driver that only works with a
>>specific kernel." I don't consider that real Linux support, so do
>your
> >homework.
> >
> >
>>Keep in mind that every time a new kernel comes out (~once a month
>with
> >Debian stable, ~every two weeks with testing??) you're in for an
> >overnight (or at least multi-hour) download. I'm afraid you're going
>>to find yourself dreading the 'apt-get dist-upgrade' command, which
>you
> >_should_ run often.
> >
> >
> >I'd also add a vote for seeing if you can get USB media: it's a lot
> >easier to deal with these days, and more common. It could also allow
>>you to skip putting an optical drive into your new machine if you
>don't
> >otherwise need it.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Giles
> > https://www.gilesorr.com/
> > gilesorr at gmail.com
>
> --
> Russell
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Russell
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