[GTALUG] debian Linux -- Installation DVDs Full Set - Shipped To Canadian Destination ??

Russell rreiter91 at gmail.com
Sat Mar 3 09:53:16 EST 2018



On March 3, 2018 9:44:25 AM EST, "Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk" <talk at gtalug.org> wrote:
>Russell -- thanks for the tip about small footprint system rescue --
>I'll try it.

Just a small correction and a confession. Gentoo uses Portage not Aptitude as its update manager.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portage_(software)

I've never actually installed Gentoo but for a Linux pocket knife, you can't beat the System Rescue iso for portability and functions.

>
>Steve
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Russell 
>  To: Steve Petrie, P.Eng. ; GTALUG Talk 
>  Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 11:01 AM
>Subject: Re: [GTALUG] debian Linux -- Installation DVDs Full Set -
>Shipped To Canadian Destination ??
>
>
>
>
>On March 2, 2018 10:25:16 AM EST, "Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk"
><talk at gtalug.org> wrote:
>  >Many thanks to the many helpful responders !!
>  >
>  >Too many for me to thank individually ...
>  >
>  >* * *
>  >* * *
>  >
>  >Here is what I have digested and decided, based on GTALUG advivce
>  >received:
>  >
>  >1. Thanks for the multiple offers to burn & ship DVDs and / or other
>  >media.
>  >
>  >2. I'll accept the USB device advice, and use a USB device for the
>  >installation media.
>  >
> >3. I already own two (2) WD 1 TB USB drives, acquired for taking hard
>  >disk backups of the new PC. So I'll try using one of those for the
>  >debian Linux (LXDE) installation device.
>  >
>>4. My friend has a Windows 10 setup with high speed Internet
>connection
>>so I'll see if he and I can get all three installation DVD images onto
>  >that USB drive. We can't use any Linux utilities while doing that,
>  >unfortunately. Then I'll try the Linux install from that USB drive.
>
>I know your final target is lxde but the System Rescue iso has a very
>small footprint and it is great for slow connections. I have done it
>for several people in the past and it contains number of very useful
>tools for disk manipulation. It uses Debian apt tools for repository
>management and is based on well documented Gentoo linux.
>
>  http://www.system-rescue-cd.org
>
>  >
>>5. Thanks also for the cautionary advice re: dial-up modem on Linux. I
>  >did some research earlier, but of course the proof will be in the
>  >actual attempt to use the modem :) I do plan to upgrade to a faster
>  >(and dedicated) Internet link !! Just wanted to try first with the
>>dial-up modem. Trying to simplify my life by postponing the networking
> >upgrade. And also out of plain perverse curiosity, more than anything
>  >else.
>  >
>  >* * *
>  >* * *
>  >
>  >Thanks again to GTALUG members for all the advice. Makes this whole
> >shift from Windows XP to debian Linux soooo much more comfortable. No
>  >doubt I'll be back in touch again at some point, during the build
>  >adventure... :)
>
>I use system rescue to prepare dual boot systems and troubleshoot with
>it all the time. My copy is on a very old 1gig usb pen drive. I
>wouldn't start a fresh install without having a copy available.
>
>  Good luck with the build.
>  >
>  >Best,
>  >
>  >Steve
>  >
>  >----- Original Message ----- 
>  >  From: Giles Orr 
>  >  To: Steve Petrie, P.Eng. ; GTALUG Talk 
>  >  Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 2:24 PM
>  >Subject: Re: [GTALUG] debian Linux -- Installation DVDs Full Set -
>  >Shipped To Canadian Destination ??
>  >
>  >
>  >On 1 March 2018 at 09:28, Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk
>  ><talk at gtalug.org> wrote:
>  >
>  >    Greetings To GTALUG,
>  >
> >I am starting to order the parts for building a new desktop PC to run
>  >debian Linux as primary operating system. Replacing an ancient Dell
>  >desktop PC with MS Windows XP.
>  >
>  >    * * *
>  >    * * *
>  >
> >I'm looking for a source for full set of physical debian Linux (LXDE)
>>installation DVDs (NOT a live install, as I understand that Linux does
>  >not yet support live install with UEFI).
>  >
>>I need the installation DVDs because I use a very slow telephone-grade
>>dial-up line modem for my Internet connection, so a Linux installation
> >via network is not feasible. (I plan to try to keep using the dial-up
>>line with the new debian Linux PC, at least for the first while.
>GTALUG
>>advice put me on to the idea of using a USB dial-up modem with Linux.)
>  >
>  >Found a U.S.A.-side vendor www.shoplinuxonline.org but am concerned
>  >about getting caught in snags with payment / collection of Canadian
>  >customs duties, that may be collected by courier delivering to the
>  >Canadian address from U.S.A
>  >
>  >    * * *
>  >    * * *
>  >
>  >Does anyone know of a Canadian-side online seller of debian Linux
>  >(LXDE) DVD installation sets ??
>  >
>  >I could potentially beg use of a friend's Windows 10 setup on Bell
>>Fibe, and download the debian Linux LXDE) DVD image files and burn the
>  >DVDs myself, but I prefer to avoid the hassle and probable mistakes.
>  >
>  >Any thoughts from GTALUG members, on this piddling but potentially
>>messy detail of getting a full set of debian Linux (LXDE) install
>DVDs,
>  >greatly appreciated !!
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >The last time I had to help someone with a modem on Linux 3-4 years
>  >ago, it was kind of a nightmare.  Before you buy, make sure it has
>>Linux support - and then spend some time researching what they mean by
> >that, because one of the things I encountered was "has Linux support"
> >meant "if you go pay someone else for a driver that only works with a
>>specific kernel."  I don't consider that real Linux support, so do
>your
>  >homework.
>  >
>  >
>>Keep in mind that every time a new kernel comes out (~once a month
>with
>  >Debian stable, ~every two weeks with testing??) you're in for an
> >overnight (or at least multi-hour) download.  I'm afraid you're going
>>to find yourself dreading the 'apt-get dist-upgrade' command, which
>you
>  >_should_ run often.
>  >
>  >
>  >I'd also add a vote for seeing if you can get USB media: it's a lot
> >easier to deal with these days, and more common.  It could also allow
>>you to skip putting an optical drive into your new machine if you
>don't
>  >otherwise need it.
>  >
>  >
>  >  -- 
>  >
>  >  Giles
>  >  https://www.gilesorr.com/
>  >  gilesorr at gmail.com
>
>  -- 
>  Russell

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Russell


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