[GTALUG] debian Linux -- Installation DVDs Full Set - Shipped To Canadian Destination ??

[Russell]

On March 2, 2018 10:25:16 AM EST, "Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk" <talk at gtalug.org> wrote:
>Many thanks to the many helpful responders !!
>
>Too many for me to thank individually ...
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>Here is what I have digested and decided, based on GTALUG advivce
>received:
>
>1. Thanks for the multiple offers to burn & ship DVDs and / or other
>media.
>
>2. I'll accept the USB device advice, and use a USB device for the
>installation media.
>
>3. I already own two (2) WD 1 TB USB drives, acquired for taking hard
>disk backups of the new PC. So I'll try using one of those for the
>debian Linux (LXDE) installation device.
>
>4. My friend has a Windows 10 setup with high speed Internet connection
>so I'll see if he and I can get all three installation DVD images onto
>that USB drive. We can't use any Linux utilities while doing that,
>unfortunately. Then I'll try the Linux install from that USB drive.

I know your final target is lxde but the System Rescue iso has a very small footprint and it is great for slow connections. I have done it for several people in the past and it contains number of very useful tools for disk manipulation. It uses Debian apt tools for repository management and is based on well documented Gentoo linux.

http://www.system-rescue-cd.org

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>5. Thanks also for the cautionary advice re: dial-up modem on Linux. I
>did some research earlier, but of course the proof will be in the
>actual attempt to use the modem :) I do plan to upgrade to a faster
>(and dedicated) Internet link !! Just wanted to try first with the
>dial-up modem. Trying to simplify my life by postponing the networking
>upgrade. And also out of plain perverse curiosity, more than anything
>else.
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>Thanks again to GTALUG members for all the advice. Makes this whole
>shift from Windows XP to debian Linux soooo much more comfortable. No
>doubt I'll be back in touch again at some point, during the build
>adventure... :)

I use system rescue to prepare dual boot systems and troubleshoot with it all the time. My copy is on a very old 1gig usb pen drive. I wouldn't start a fresh install without having a copy available.

Good luck with the build.
>
>Best,
>
>Steve
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Giles Orr 
>  To: Steve Petrie, P.Eng. ; GTALUG Talk 
>  Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 2:24 PM
>Subject: Re: [GTALUG] debian Linux -- Installation DVDs Full Set -
>Shipped To Canadian Destination ??
>
>
>On 1 March 2018 at 09:28, Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk
><talk at gtalug.org> wrote:
>
>    Greetings To GTALUG,
>
>I am starting to order the parts for building a new desktop PC to run
>debian Linux as primary operating system. Replacing an ancient Dell
>desktop PC with MS Windows XP.
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>I'm looking for a source for full set of physical debian Linux (LXDE)
>installation DVDs (NOT a live install, as I understand that Linux does
>not yet support live install with UEFI).
>
>I need the installation DVDs because I use a very slow telephone-grade
>dial-up line modem for my Internet connection, so a Linux installation
>via network is not feasible. (I plan to try to keep using the dial-up
>line with the new debian Linux PC, at least for the first while. GTALUG
>advice put me on to the idea of using a USB dial-up modem with Linux.)
>
>Found a U.S.A.-side vendor www.shoplinuxonline.org but am concerned
>about getting caught in snags with payment / collection of Canadian
>customs duties, that may be collected by courier delivering to the
>Canadian address from U.S.A
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>Does anyone know of a Canadian-side online seller of debian Linux
>(LXDE) DVD installation sets ??
>
>I could potentially beg use of a friend's Windows 10 setup on Bell
>Fibe, and download the debian Linux LXDE) DVD image files and burn the
>DVDs myself, but I prefer to avoid the hassle and probable mistakes.
>
>Any thoughts from GTALUG members, on this piddling but potentially
>messy detail of getting a full set of debian Linux (LXDE) install DVDs,
>greatly appreciated !!
>
>
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>The last time I had to help someone with a modem on Linux 3-4 years
>ago, it was kind of a nightmare.  Before you buy, make sure it has
>Linux support - and then spend some time researching what they mean by
>that, because one of the things I encountered was "has Linux support"
>meant "if you go pay someone else for a driver that only works with a
>specific kernel."  I don't consider that real Linux support, so do your
>homework.
>
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>Keep in mind that every time a new kernel comes out (~once a month with
>Debian stable, ~every two weeks with testing??) you're in for an
>overnight (or at least multi-hour) download.  I'm afraid you're going
>to find yourself dreading the 'apt-get dist-upgrade' command, which you
>_should_ run often.
>
>
>I'd also add a vote for seeing if you can get USB media: it's a lot
>easier to deal with these days, and more common.  It could also allow
>you to skip putting an optical drive into your new machine if you don't
>otherwise need it.
>
>
>  -- 
>
>  Giles
>  https://www.gilesorr.com/
>  gilesorr at gmail.com

-- 
Russell