[GTALUG] Messages are bouncing

ac ac at main.me
Fri Jul 27 00:12:58 EDT 2018


mailmain includes the receiving IP number, irrespective of whether it
is ipv6 or ipv4, it is not an ipv6 or ipv54 issue :)

it is because 2600:3c03:e000:173::1 is in an abuse range. (probably
because of the snowshoe from linode) 

if mail.flamy.ca was an ipv4 that was also abusive or non responsive to
abuse - the problem would be the same...

the list should probably also be using the spamhaus 'drop' rbl..
but you are not because your range is listed? :)

the list ipv4 is nice and clean:
http://multirbl.valli.org/lookup/69.164.222.247.html - and the specific
ipv6 (2600:3c03:e000:173::1) is also clean, the range is in a 'drop'
range.... - as ipv6 starts becoming more common, many ipv6 email
servers would have to get better hosting / ip ranges, if they want to
send email reliably - as the ipv6 spectrum is too large to function
easily on the same basis as ipv4... 

On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 14:23:26 -0400
Alex Volkov via talk <talk at gtalug.org> wrote:

> Oh, it's not the messages that list receives that get filtered out,
> it's when mailman sends out list to the recipients, some who have
> spamhaus and running on an IPv6 port get mailing list messages
> filtered.
> 
> We could disable IPv6 on our end, but it just feels wrong to me.
> 
> Here's the error message I'm getting on my personal email server
> 
> <subscriptions at flamy.ca>: host mail.flamy.ca[2600:3c03:e000:173::1]
> said: 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable; Client host
> [2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe50:ea0a] blocked using
> sbl.spamhaus.org;https://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/query/SBLCSS (in reply
> to RCPT TO command)
> 
> 
> I believe the following hosts have similar settings to mine --
> 
> csclub.uwaterloo.ca
> vex.net
> 
> I believe there are 7 people including myself, that get routinely
> affected by the issue.
> 
> 
> 
> On 2018-07-26 03:06 AM, ac via talk wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > There seems to be many people using non blocking RBL for DROP?
> >
> > Alex, Instead of using that specific spamhaus DNSBL for DROP you
> > should rather use it for scoring?
> >
> > An example of a DROP RBL is chronic webiron.com and dnsbl.ascams.com
> > these you can use for DROP?
> >
> > Will it not be better to add scoring to sa and then to add numeric
> > values?
> >
> > hth
> >
> > Andre
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 12:06:23 -0400
> > Alex Volkov via talk <talk at gtalug.org> wrote:
> >  
> >> We also have a web interface for mailman, so you can check if
> >> you're messages are showing up there, since the default mailing
> >> list settings is not to receive your own emails.
> >>
> >> https://gtalug.org/pipermail/talk/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2018-07-25 11:53 AM, James Knott via talk wrote:  
> >>> Let me know if you don't receive this message.  ;-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I sent it to both the list and you directly, so you can see if it
> >>> got through the list.
> >>>
> >>> On 07/25/2018 11:49 AM, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote:  
> >>>> I don't think I have received any messages from the list in about
> >>>> 2 weeks. The only thing I have gotten is a message saying I have
> >>>> been removed due to bounces (strangely that one didn't bounce).
> >>>> No idea why that would happen since other things work fine,
> >>>> including lkml which is notorious for hating bouncing emails.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone have any idea what could be going on?
> >>>>     
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