[GTALUG] Specific question about mailing list management

[Alex Volkov]

Hi Alvin,

gtalug mailing list periodically gets blacklisted by smamhaus on our 
IPv6 address, then I have to go to their website and de-list us, which 
takes a minute or two, but lately this started happening every other 
week or so, and it's been pretty annoying.

Alex.

On 2018-07-25 09:48 AM, ac via talk wrote:
> Hi Alvin,
>
> long time :)
>
> Have you been black listed by an RBL for a mailing list sending
> verification emails?
>
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 09:26:04 -0400
> Alvin Starr via talk <talk at gtalug.org> wrote:
>
>> Another thing is to make sure you have a valid email address by
>> sending an activation message.
>> Lots of people will provide bogus addresses either deliberately or
>> accidentally.
>> You also need to monitor your outgoing email or track the bounce
>> backs for email addresses that go away.
>>
>> One of the problems you will face is that conventional wisdom is that
>> responding to an un-subscribe button is just a way that the spammers
>> validate your email address.
>> Also People will just tag the messages as spam causing you to get
>> black-listed.
>>
>> Every few years I get blacklisted because I have someone running a
>> small mail-list related to a Knitting e-commerce web site.
>> The site admin is a good friend and I know they are very careful
>> about the mail addresses in the list but bad emails still leak in.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/25/2018 02:06 AM, ac via talk wrote:
>>> Hi Evan,
>>>
>>> The quick answer is that there is no agreement on best practise for
>>> unsub messages, the amount of verification (and time span of) and a
>>> number of other abuse related issues.
>>>
>>> Here is what I personally (wrongly or correctly) do:
>>> Subscription (Opt in message / Confirm email message - 1 per day max
>>> three days)
>>> Unsubscribe - no message - just unsubscribe
>>>
>>> never send any email from noreply@  I am not Google or Microsoft
>>> (and even the dentist around the corner is now doing that *sigh*)
>>>
>>> When subscriber does anything on a link (Web) - send a confirm your
>>> request email
>>>
>>> hth
>>>
>>> Andre
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 00:30:58 -0400
>>> Evan Leibovitch via talk <talk at gtalug.org> wrote:
>>>   
>>>> Hi all.
>>>>
>>>> This question is asked of anyone who administers a mailing list
>>>> about policies. I'm setting up a campaign-based mailing system
>>>> using phplist (as opposed to a forum-type MLM such as Mailman) and
>>>> I'm interested to know what policies or best practices you might
>>>> have in place to address this specific question:
>>>>
>>>> When a list subscriber goes to a link to change their preferences
>>>> or unsubscribe, from what email address does the confirmation (for
>>>> changes) or "sorry to see you go" message (for unsubscriptions)
>>>> originate.
>>>>
>>>> Does such administrative email come from:
>>>> a) an identifiable member or the organization's staff?
>>>> b) a postmaster-type alias?
>>>> c) a do-not-reply address?
>>>>
>>>> ​Any feedback is appreciated.​
>>>>   
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